How can you tell if a photo is an original? 1915 Hans Lobert Photo

[packs]

Hello everyone,

I picked up this Hans Lobert photo as an original 1915 photo of Lobert while playing third base for the New York Giants. I was hoping my fellow collectors could educate me as to how to determine if a photo is an original. The photo paper feels thin, it's got some gloss to it and Lobert's name is written in pencil on the back with the date of 1915. I've only seen this particular image one other time and believe this may be from Opening Day 1915. Any help is appreciated.

[prewarsports]

Most photographers and archives were really good about stampping their photos so the lack of a stamp is not usually a good sign, BUT that does not mean one without anything on the back is not original. It would be hard to tell without seeing it in person but sometimes you can tell from a Hi-Res scan if you could do that.

[packs]

I wish I could get a better scan but I'm not in the same place as my photo. It's back home and I'm on the road. I have until June 9th to file a paypal claim and will be back home the 23rd. Are there any properties of the photo paper that I should pay attention to that would give away that it is not from 1915?

[packs]

Here is a close up of Lobert's face. The size of the photo is 10 by 12. There is some browning on the bottom left corner and the paper is what i would call very thin. You can see some slight wrinkling in my first scan. The back of the photo is brownish. There is a lot of detail in the photo and it is very clear. That's one of the reasons I thought it could be an original, or at least from the original negative. Just look at that glove!

[prewarsports]

It is really hard to tell. One thing you can do to see if it is old (although it doesnt pinpoint it that much) is to get a corner a little damp. As the photo starts to dry it should be VERY sticky before it dries totally. I think photos after the 1940's or 1950's will not be sticky when wet because they did not use gelatin in the process. This will not tell you it is from 1915 but it can tell you if it was made in the last 40 years or so. Without seeing it in person it is impossible to tell but the lack of stamps on the back and it being a known published image would make me think it is probably a more recent print, but it is impossible to tell for sure so dont take that as gospel.

[packs]

I'll try the sticky test when I get back.

As for it being published: Well it isn't exactly a known published photo. I did some Googling and found this Lobert photo on someone's site. It isn't exactly the same, but is similar. This person's photo WAS printed and contained a tagline on the back of it that denoted it as being Opening Day 1915 Giants against the Dodgers. This photo I could tell is definitely a later printing because it is not clear and looks like it has been reprinted a ton. The only real similarities it shares with my photo is that it is Lobert throwing at third base, but the time of day, positioning, shadows and cropping is totally different. For comparison: