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Old 02-25-2010, 07:24 PM
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Hello everyone! Quick question here. In finally having a collection focus and narrowing down/shrinking down my collection, I found two cards I forgot I had. I had the two cards graded by SGC eons ago, 9-10 years ago I think. I'm going to sell them off to try and pick up a T206 card I want but am curious about the labels/flips, whatever they are called.

They are the older ones that are no longer used and have that gold hologram sticker on the back. Frankly, I don't really care but I know other people do. How are the cards in older SGC holders viewed as opposed to the newer ones? Are they less desirable?

I know some people might care about this but am just looking for some insight from people who deal a lot more with the graded cards than I do. Thanks!
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:31 PM
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I think I speak for most people when I say it doesn't matter at all how current the SGC holder is. If someone likes the card and condition, they will pay the same no matter what kind of SGC holder the card is in.

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Old 02-25-2010, 07:35 PM
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I think I speak for most people when I say it doesn't matter at all how current the SGC holder is. If someone likes the card and condition, they will pay the same no matter what kind of SGC holder the card is in.

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Thanks. That's what I was hoping to hear.
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scan of said holder would help...

but i would take a very close look at cards in the oldest "SG" holders. i'm not even 100% sure if the current SGC people would automatically cross them over either....a few years back some had to go through the crossover channel.
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Bill:

I can't help you with your answer, but did want to say hello to a fellow NOVA resident.

I'm just south of you in Lorton.

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i once asked brian of sgc about the older flips and he said that during that time the grading of the centering of the cards was much more lax than it is today. which goes to the point listed by the other poster that they may not cross to the same grade with the graders at sgc today
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I believe there are 3 generations of SGC flips. The 1st generation is the one that may be problematic on crossover, but the 2nd and 3rd generations are the same in my estimation. The 2nd generation has the gold bar on the back. The 1st generation has a very different looking front of the flip than the 2nd and 3rd generations.
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Thanks for all the replies guys! I've included a couple of scans below just so I will know if I have the 1st or 2nd generation. I know it's not a pre-war card which is why I hesitated to post the scans but if it helps, I'm getting rid of much of my collection and some of the upcoming stuff is going to help me obtain a few pre-war cards!
Don't ask why I got this graded. It was about 10 years ago and for some reason was excited about the whole graded thing. I don't really care anymore.

Anyway, thanks again. You guys always come through!

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1st generation. But at that grade level it shouldn't make a difference.

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this is the 1st gen. with the "SG" in front and cool hologram on the back...i think there's a couple variations of this flip. don't know anything about '54 topps, but since you got it graded urself card itself should be fine and cross to current holder. however potential bidders may be confused by the old flip when bidding
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Hi everyone,
Great question Bill. I have a card with an old SGC flip I was wondering about also. Would it effect the value of this card (if I sold it) if I left it in this holder or should I upgrade to a newer holder? Thanks!
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this is the 1st gen. with the "SG" in front and cool hologram on the back...i think there's a couple variations of this flip. don't know anything about '54 topps, but since you got it graded urself card itself should be fine and cross to current holder. however potential bidders may be confused by the old flip when bidding
That's one of the things I was worried about. Oh well, it is what it is I guess. I'd like to pick up this card somewhere down the line but I think the pre-war has tightened it's bite on me and has broken skin. No sense in fighting it now.

Paul-Great to see a fellow "NOVA" person! I actually ran into a member of this board at a show this past weekend in McLean/Tyson's Corner. He's got a shop opened up that way with vintage material that I keep saying I'm going to go to. I'll tell you what, this area is much better for cards than the Ft. Bragg/Fayetteville N.C. area where I just moved from 6 months ago!
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