T207 Scarcity Question

[quinnsryche]

Is there any info available that ranks the T207 set by scarcity? Kind of like the list for the Sporting Life set on Old Cardboard where they are listed numerically as to how hard or easy they are to find. Any help would be most appreciated.

[Zach Wheat]

Tony,

If you give me your email, I will send you some information which will answer your question. Tim Newcomb wrote articles on the T207 set in VCBC #37 & 38 (Feb 2004) where he covers both back scarcity and player scarcity. Both would be good reference sources. I picked up my copies of this article on eBay. You should be able to find both issues for about $10 each. Here is an eBay link to one seller (not me):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Classic-...item35a545ae51

He should have both issues.

Zach Wheat

[timn1]

Tony,

Mr. Wheat is right on the money. My article from VCBC addresses your question pretty thoroughly. I think VCBC is defunct, but if you can't find a copy on ebay, I may have a xerox I can send you, although I'm not sure.

Tim

[Jim VB]

I have a complete run of VCBC in the closet. If you can't find it somewhere else, let me know and I'll scan you a copy (with the author's permission, of course.)

[caramelcard]

People, remember when you read the list in Tim's article.

Donlin is only at the top cuz it's alphabetical. So, stop paying so much for it. It's not the toughest card in the set! They're all tough!

[frohme]

Well put, Rob!

Looking past Donlin is great - as long as everyone remembers to skip Donnelly, too!

"... these are not the cards you're looking for ..."

Mike

[topcat61]

Population reports from grading companies arent too reliable; too many collectors pop cards out for better grades. I would instead look on ebay and other auction sites for a better feel fro what's rare. I also think that if you sit down for a few months on ebay and catalog what T207's you see, you'll have a better understand of a) what they're selling for and b) what cards are being seen the most or least.

[dabbuu]

I would love to hear what other cards people had a tough time getting. For me the toughest cards were:

Bauman by far
Morgrige
Cunningham
Hoff
Houser
Hyatt
Butcher
Livingston Large C
Donlin
C D Thomas
Rath
White
Scott
Woodburn
Adams
Blanding
McCarthy
Pelty

Any others?

[Cozumeleno]

Dabbuu - we've traded and talked, and our lists are pretty similar. From personal experience, my toughest were probably Bauman, Mogridge, Cunningham, Ragan, Hoff, Donlin, Kuhn, and Blanding. I still need Miller, Lowdermilk, and Lewis but I've seen those for sale more frequently than the others I mentioned.

I lucked into some very tough ones. A few years ago, I bought a Houser that had been sitting on eBay for months. It had a punch hole and sold for something like $40. Since then, I've barely seen the card. So it's very tough but just wasn't one of my hardest ones. Same with Saier, which I got pretty early but also seems to show up infrequently.

I honestly think there are many that you can lump together. I don't know that, say, Cunningham is any tougher than Adams. Or Woodburn vs. White. Or Ryan vs. McCarthy. Or ... you get the idea. To some degree, I think it's splitting hairs.

Some are definitely harder than others. For my money, Donlin is way up there. But I personally think there's Lewis No Emblem that's clearly ahead and then a bunch of other contenders. It's just tough to say which of those, say, ten contenders, if any, are definitely harder to find than the others.

[Bridwell]

A Bushelman T207 SGC 50 sold today on Ebay for $797. It would get a MC qualifier from PSA, so not a high grade card by any means. I'd have to add Bushelman to those lists you've made of the tough ones.

[brianp-beme]

For the most part I have stuck with collecting only the more readily available T207 cards, mainly due to the cost. The tougher 'Broadleaf' cards have always had a different look to me, which I think is partly due to differences in the artwork, and partly due to the fact that I just don't see them as often.

I have relatively few of the tough cards, but feel fortunate to have this Cycle back (my only one) of Hoff, and for me it has the bonus of having Buck Barker writing on the back. And it is a cool portrait image of the fellow who lived to be 107.

Brian