Another Great Ebay Move

So we all know that SCAM-BAY is always looking for a way to screw the seller. Here is another way I just found while listing a lot of cards.


Attention Sellers:


Dear Seller!
Starting the week of September 22, 2009, optional or required buyer-selected shipping insurance will no longer be allowed on eBay.

What you can do:

You will still be able to insure you items.

You can fold the cost of insurance into your item price or handling fee.

You can indicate, ‘The item is insured” or “Handling fee includes insurance.”

What you cannot do:
You cannot charge the buyer a separate fee for insurance, either in a listing or after the buyer has committed to purchase the item

You cannot indicate insurance is only offered upon buyer’s request

You cannot indicate you are not responsible for the item once it has been shipped.

For more information on the changes to optional insurance, please visit:

http://pages.ebay.com/sell/July2009U...ndex.html#1-10

[Old Mill Man]

WOW!!!! These new changes really make no sense to me.I mean we know we are in rough times with the economy so why would they do things that have a negative spin??? I don't get it,thanks for the post I am coming very close to closing my Ebay account.

[jim]

Don't mind buying there, but real leery of selling material there anymore.

[Exhibitman]

All I can think is that they want to get rid of all non-professional sellers. In other words, eliminate the sellers who got them to this point. Stupidity is never in short supply in corporate America.

[Anthony S.]

Actually, after all the Ebay self-immolation over the past year, this decision finally makes sense. As primarily an Ebay buyer (and occasional seller), there's something particularly galling about hearing that the seller isn't responsible unless the buyer purchases insurance. Horse hockey. I paid for the item. I paid shipping. I didn't pay for the "possibility" of receiving the item. I paid to receive it. Amazon doesn't send me an email after I purchase an item that reads "well you didn't buy insurance, so if you don't receive the item, sucks to be you." If you're a seller, take the cost of insurance and delivery confirmation into account when you list an item. I'm sure there's plenty of seller horror stories out there, and that they'll be revealed in this thread, but on the face of it, as a buyer, this is a positive development.

Originally Posted by Anthony S.

Actually, after all the Ebay self-immolation over the past year, this decision finally makes sense. As primarily an Ebay buyer (and occasional seller), there's something particularly galling about hearing that the seller isn't responsible unless the buyer purchases insurance. Horse hockey. I bought the item. I paid shipping. I didn't pay for the "possibility" of receiving the item. I paid to receive it. Amazon doesn't send me an email after I purchase an item that reads, well you didn't buy insurance, so if you don't receive the item, sucks to be you. If you're a seller, take the cost of insurance and delivery confirmation into account when you list an item. I'm sure there's plenty of seller horror stories out there, and that they'll be revealed in this thread, but on the face of it, as a buyer, this is a positive development.

Valid point and I agree to some extent. Problem is when the seller adds the insurance to an item and charges the consumer for it they get pissed because they didn't ask for it, or they decide to buy somewhere else, or they give you BS offers for your items to offset the cost of shipping/handling. Another thing is why is it my responsibility for you to recieve your item I am not the PO and do not get paid to deliver your item anywhere but there. This is what we pay the PO for. They offer insurance same way Ebay sellers do, they don't make it mandatory that is why it is optional. Why doesn't the real problem step up and do something about lost and damaged mail

If I sell a card for $10 and add $2 for shipping you are in to it for $12. I go mail it with tracking info but you decided to not get insurance on it because its only $12. You get the tracking # and all is well untill it is lost or shows up busted. Now where in there is this the sellers fault and their responsibility for the item, especialy since you have the choice to get insurance.

Nobody sells to take a loss. I also see this causing a great mail fraud scam.

I sell you an item, you get it and if you don't like it and there are no returns or I refuse return because there is no legitamite excuse for it other than buyers remorse whats to say you have no integrity and file a PO claim for the item just to get some or all Money back????

Ebay is only making it easier for the Scammers out there. Just wait and see and I hope I am wrong.

[ChrisStufflestreet]

Originally Posted by Anthony S.

As primarily an Ebay buyer (and occasional seller), there's something particularly galling about hearing that the seller isn't responsible unless the buyer purchases insurance.

As a buyer, I've had this happen a couple of times...when I'd get that explanation, I'd ask the following question: "when I sent you the payment, had it been lost in the mail, would you have accepted that as a reason?"

The answer was always no.