T206 PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 survey......UPDATED

[tedzan]

Survey......part I

During the Red Cobb survey, many of you were surprised to see how many T206 red Cobb's with the very rare PIEDMONT 460 Fact. 42
back that were reported. Of the 301 samples, 13 were P 460/42 cards.

The other 5 major stars in the T206 350/460 series are Cobb (bat off shoulder), Johnson (pitching), Lajoie (bat), Matty (dark cap), and
CYoung (glove). Show or tell us of your P 460/42 cards of these five Subjects ?

I will start this with my Johnson......




SURVEY......8/3/09


Cobb (bat)............0

Johnson (pitch)......1

Lajoie (bat)...........0

Matty (dk cap).......0

CYoung (glove).......0




Survey......part II

Furthermore, in the prior P 460/42 survey 60 subjects (of the 61) in the 350/460 series were confirmed (Tinker is still unconfirmed).

However, only the following 12 subjects (of the 48) in the 460-only series have been confirmed.

I will give $10....to any one here who can add a new 460-only card with a P 460/42 back to this list? ?


Bergen (catching)
Chase (Trophy)
Devore
Kleinow (Boston)
Latham
Merkle (throwing)
Murray (portrait)
Overall (blue sky)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)
Smith (Boston & Chicago)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


Thanks....once again for participating in this survey.


TED Z

[B O'Brien]

Ted,
I have a P42 Young right now. I have also sold a Johnson and Black Matty to a non board reader over the past few months.
Thanks,
Bob

[White Borders]

Hi Ted,

I have:

Cobb (bat)
Johnson (pitch)
CYoung (glove)

I can't add any to the 460 Only group.

Best Regards,
Craig

[cfc1909]

I have Lajoie bat and Cy Young and also a M. Brown

[rebelsart]

Hi Ted,
Missed you in Cleveland, hope you had a good show.

Here are the Piedmont factory 42 cards I have (nothing new to add to your list):

BENDER (NO TREES) PHILA. AMER.
COBB, RED, DETROIT
CHASE (BLUE) N.Y. AMER.
CRAWFORD, BAT, DETROIT
JENNINGS, 1 HAND, DETROIT
JENNINGS, 2 HANDS, DETROIT
LATHAM N.Y. NAT'L.
MCINTYRE BKLN & CHICAGO
MULLIN, BATTING, DETROIT
OLEARY, HOK, DETROIT
OLEARY, HOK, DETROIT
PFEISTER CHICAGO NAT'L.
WILLETTS, DETROIT
WILTSE (CAP) N.Y. NAT'L.

Regards,
Art M.

[ethicsprof]

no fancy HOFer 42 for me, Ted, just a Downey batting to match my T3.

best,

barry

[tedzan]

Reprising the "Lonely 12" subjects that have been confirmed with the Piedmont 460/42 back.

Bergen (catching)
Chase (Trophy)
Devore
Kleinow (Boston)
Latham
Merkle (throwing)
Murray (portrait)
Overall (blue sky)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)
Smith (Boston & Chicago)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)

I refer to these 12 cards as the "lonely 12" because after years of tracking P 460/42 backs, I think there
was a very limited printing of the P 460/42 backs with respect to the 460-only series.


Here's the list of the remaining 36 cards in the 460-only series that have NOT been confirmed......

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bescher (hands in air)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms folded)
Camnitz (hands at side)
Chance (batting)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)
Hummell
Lake (St Louis-ball)
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove)
Meyers
Needham
Oldring (batting)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (batting)
Schulte (back view)
Sheckard (glove)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (batting)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat


Remember that I will give you $10 for every one of these 36 that you report with a Piedmont 460/42 back.

Thanks for taking the time to check-out your T206's.

TED Z

[Brian Weisner]

Hi Ted,
Here's a list of my 42's:

Baker
Cobb Red
Cobb Bat off
Cobb Bat off
Conroy Bat
Conroy Bat
Crawford Bat
Kleinow Boston
Konetchy Glove low
Latham
Latham
Manning pitch
Mathewson Dcap
Mathewson Dcap
McIntyre Brook& chicago
Overall Throwing
Pelty Vertical
Seymour Throw
Smith Chi& Bos
Snodgrass catch
Sweeney Throw
Wagner right
White Chi

I may have a few more.... Check in later.

Be well Brian

[tedzan]

You are the King, big guy. So tell me, why is LATHAM more abundantly seen with a P 460/42 back than most other cards ?

You have two....and the one I have, I got from you. Also, I know of at least two other Latham's.


TED Z

[tedzan]

PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 survey......Updated 8/5/09


Cobb (bat)............3

Johnson (pitch)......3

Lajoie (bat)...........3

Matty (dark cap)....3

CYoung (glove)......3


Thanks guys for all your inputs. I know this is a very tough T206 back....but, if we can
get as many as 13 inputs of the Red Cobb portrait with the PIEDMONT 460/42 back.....
then I'm sure we can get some more inputs on these 5 cards.


TED Z

[Exhibitman]

Add Bradley and Chase to the pop list

[Kotton King]

I owned a Johnson (Piedmont 42), but sold it several months back. It was in a PSA 2 holder:

(Edited to add that I think it might be the one that Craig posted about, but I don't remember off hand).

[White Borders]

Yep, the Johnson that Eric posted above is the one I now own and listed. He's been freed of his PSA tomb and now resides next to his Polar Bear backed twin in a nice binder.

[obcmac]

I have the Matty dark cap with a f.42 back...and picked up the Seymour f.42 in Cleveland.

Mac

[tedzan]

Thanks Mac

I will add your Matty to the list in the next update.


TED Z