Do Pre-War Collectors buy Modern Cards Featurin Game Used Items of Pre-War Players

[insidethewrapper]

I was wondering how many of us pre-war collectors collect modern items with pre-war items ( such as a piece of Ruth or Cobb uniform or bat items ) etc. I do, I think it's neat to have a part of Cobb's uniform or a piece of his bat etc. I can't afford the whole uniform or bat. See attached.

[Orioles1954]

Some people will ramble on about it defacing history, etc. I'd rather have a collector have a swatch than some museum or a multi-gazallionaire have the whole piece. That's just my opinion though.

Edited to add: The biggest issue with some of these pieces is that there is no way to verify authenticity.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Some people will ramble on about it defacing history, etc. I'd rather have a collector have a swatch than some museum or a multi-gazallionaire have the whole piece. That's just my opinion though.

Edited to add: The biggest issue with some of these pieces is that there is no way to verify authenticity.

One man’s saw dust is another man’s Honus Bat.

[bnorth]

I have bought them to used the inserted item in my own custom cards. I wait till I find a damaged card to get them cheap since I am tearing it apart anyway. If anybody has a cheap Ted Williams jersey card I am your huckleberry.

[steve B]

I don't like them when it's a retired player. Especially long retired.

I don't generally like cutting up anything, but I can see a few things that I'd make an exception for. Like if the jersey was too far gone for much else. Or the bat was a partial bat, like the ones I saw years ago where someone had an in with a team to get broken bats, sliced them in half the long way and added pegs to make bat hangers and coat hooks. Basically if it's already wrecked.
(current players, no problem. They can literally use a bat for one pitch, send it back to the dugout for another and it's game used)

Here's an item that would be borderline. A braves warmup jacket, bought from a local auction. I never looked at it in preview, it was just hanging up behind one of the tables like it was someones jacket. Announced as Ernie Lombardis and coming from a family that was friends with him. I can't even find pics of the warmup jackets to know it's a real team used one, but it's very well made, and reversible the white side is leather, and pretty torn up in the shoulder area where a name would have been.



It went cheap even if it's from one of the bench guys, and if it's not game used I could fix it and wear it.

Would it be a huge loss if a card company cut it up? Maybe not, even though I cant find anything similar. Is it really cool as-is yeah, I'd rather have the whole thing.

I don't really go out of my way to get those cards, but if I end up with one it's in the collection.

[packs]

It would be pretty easy to list how something like a Babe Ruth bat was acquired for the cards that feature pieces of it. There are only so many that come to market at any one time. Why not reveal the source of the card?

[david_l]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Some people will ramble on about it defacing history, etc. I'd rather have a collector have a swatch than some museum or a multi-gazallionaire have the whole piece. That's just my opinion though.

Edited to add: The biggest issue with some of these pieces is that there is no way to verify authenticity.

Yeah! Museums are the worst!

[pokerplyr80]

I do not personally but do understand the appeal. The only one I would really consider would be a Ruth cut auto.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by david_l

Yeah! Museums are the worst!

You do know that the overwhelming majority of memorabilia given to museums never sees the light of day, right?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

You do know that the overwhelming majority of memorabilia given to museums never sees the light of day, right?

Boy did I learn that one the hard way. They can also sell it or anything they want with it. I learned this the hard way after a museum begged me for some items. Also the one item in the collection the curator said they really liked magically disappeared.

[68Hawk]

I think they can be mesmerizing...I regularly look at this one and am transported to another time.
I feel lucky to own it and not at all bashful to say so.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Some people will ramble on about it defacing history, etc. I'd rather have a collector have a swatch than some museum or a multi-gazallionaire have the whole piece. That's just my opinion though.

Edited to add: The biggest issue with some of these pieces is that there is no way to verify authenticity.

I generally agree with James on this with the exception being extremely important pieces of history being destroyed. There are several Ruth bats or things like that so I guess I am somewhat okay with that but a few years back they destroyed George’s Vezina’s Goalie pads (I believe the only existing set).

Jerseys of today’s players and even those dating back a bit I have no issue with whatsoever. Also if the jersey being cut was damaged then absolutely go ahead and trim away. I see the enjoyment that people get from having the relics, I sometimes catch my son getting our modern cards out and just touching the little relics. He loves Ken Griffey Jr and can’t get over that he is touching a piece of his jersey, hat, batting glove or bat!

[insidethewrapper]

I agree, when I show off some of my older cards , my non-collector friends and relatives are not impressed, but when they can actually touch Ty Cobb's pants or part of Babe Ruth's actual uniform, then they get excited. A couple of them have started to collect. That's great !

[seff]

Only the first few years had the original game used pieces.

The certs on the back keep getting more sketchy as they go. Now they only say it was worn in a game. Card pictures Ruth, but the jersey is a 2018 Yankee Jersey. They never said Ruth wore it.

So who cares? Ruth, Gehrig, Huggins or Clemens is pictured by Matt Nokes wore the jersey.