JSA Story on Autographalert.com

[4815162342]

From the memorabilia side:

Originally Posted by sports-rings

Fascinating story today on autographalert.com today about taking items JSA had already certified as genuine autographs, replacing them with Christopher Morales certificates and then submitting them to JSA again.

The article also implies that regular clients to JSA get special treatment and the benefit of the doubt when submitting items.

They story is worth a read.

http://www.autographalert.com/news.html

With the recent controversy over a certain autographed T206 card, I thought it would be appropriate to post this on the card side as well. T206Collector, take notice!

[ChiefBenderForever]

Another thing to think about as well, how easy would it be to just fake a piece that was authenticated and then resubmit the original. Another thing, just because an expert says it is authentic, it is just an opinion that they think it is real. I can only imagine how many fake items are authenticated that are not real even though an expert thought it was.

[Anthony S.]

Wow. Brutal.

[oldjudge]

Isn't this the second major black eye for JSA? Wasn't there something a year or two ago about their grading of show signed material?

[lharri3600]

yes it is and if my memory is still working i think it was a tv station at a show having fake autogaphs of sal bando certified.

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Isn't this the second major black eye for JSA? Wasn't there something a year or two ago about their grading of show signed material?

[barrysloate]

Larry- are you really leaving the hobby for good? That is shocking- you love collecting baseball cards.

[BobbyVCP]

These are the same guys taking control of SGC? Bad news, really bad news.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

With the recent controversy over a certain autographed T206 card, I thought it would be appropriate to post this on the card side as well. T206Collector, take notice!

What's this controversy now? I missed it and would like any info, thanks.

EDIT-I see down the page now

[AndyG09]

JSA was set up at a local show this past weekend. I asked the two guys about the deal with SGC and they were floored that I knew about it. I said that I thought it was common knowledge in the collecting community. They said they couldn't comment on it and it was for the lawyers to sort out. Quite arrogant the whole time. I hope they don't have any negative impact on SGC.

Best,

Andy

[botn]

Article does not come as any shock. Just more of the same which plagues the hobby. Two weeks from now the rest of us will join those who already forgot the article was written.

Probably not the best news for SGC as Spence beings taking an interest in the company and taking over management duties but collectors have ignored worse.

Wonder why I have the lyrics from Won't Get Fooled Again going through my mind...

[Fred]

I just hope that SGCs new leadership doesn't ruin the "good will" that was built through the years. That would be a total shame....

I've got my own JSA story that isn't very positive but I'll just keep it to myself - I do think Spence is a lousy business person and much of that article doesn't come as a shock to me and it definitely doesn't surprise me.

Again, I just hope that SGC doesn't get dragged down the new ownership.

[lharri3600]

after looking at the thread on autographs i have yet another reason to push farther away from the hobby. after yet another grading debacle with psa i decided to sell everything i own and just leave. now this autograph thing, wow! well the only thing i will say is this, (1) just too much money to be made and what was written long before any of us got here states the reason these people do what they do, "the love of money is the root of all evil."

(2) as long as people continue to send items and pay for a service (dis-service) then they will continue to do what they have doing for a long time.
my dad (a very wise man) told me years ago, "if you see something you don't like and you know it's wrong why stay involved." well i can say it has been fun over the years meeting, talking to some great people in the hobby. also, there has been some weasels too!
God bless you and God bless the hobby