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Any player cards you dont collect because of morals
I know I will never collect OJ Simpson
i note there are a bunch of guys in the the 50s sets that did not have nice things to say about jackie robinson and willie mays as well.. |
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The only player I will not collect is Tony Gwynn and I will admit my reason is beyond silly.
I am so anti Tony Gwynn that when a great hobby friend was excited and sent me a picture of his new game used Tony Gwynn bat. My return email only said "if you ever bring him up again we can't be friends". He has never sent me a email about getting another Tony Gwynn item. |
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Cap Anson. And it's a bummer, because his Goodwin Champions is one of the most beautiful cards ever produced.
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Interesting topic...
My family does not love the fact that I have an N28 Cap Anson - not a good dude as it relates to integrating the game. Here's a tangent issue - anyone ever have an issue selling to or buying from another collector or dealer with very different political slants than your own? (I admit... I have)
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I've owned Pete Rose cards, but have never looked to acquire them. I usually sell them off as soon as possible.
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I don't have a character screen.
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None. Vintage is history, and history is not the study of things I like or people who share my life philosophy and values. My non-sports sets include mass murders like Alexander, Caesar, and the more modern ones that offend. OJ Simpson is in my 70’s football sets. Charlie Haeger is in my 2006 Bowman box. My boxing sets include Kid McCoy who murdered his girlfriend and Billy Papke who murdered his wife. If I had the wallet to chase Old Judge’s, I would have Anson in my set. He sits in many of my modern sets. I’m sure one can find dozens of players to object too in any set.
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I cannot imagine living in a world where I refuse to deal with someone because they disagree with me. I don’t care if a person I am dealing with is a hardline conservative or a communist. I know good men and bad of every political stripe.
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I don't collect Bonds, I do collect Cobb.
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I would never refuse to deal with someone based on their views alone.
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I was at a show one time when a dealer I'd often bought from used a very specific ethnic slur to describe a certain politician. I walked away in disgust and will never, ever do business with him again. Outright public racism is a line I don't cross in business dealings.
As for players I do not collect because of morals, there are a few subjects I am not interested in having in my PC. Michael Jackson fits the bill.
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What if the wackadoo claims to have PSA 5's that "identify" as PSA 8's? Last edited by murphy8276; 11-30-2022 at 02:52 PM. |
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That made me laugh way more than it should have.
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Please share your reasoning...I have always thought Gwynn was a good guy. .
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Maybe for his batting battles with Boggs?
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LOL, that and his beyond amazing late in life insanely huge increase in batting average from age 33-37. His huge production increase made Barry Bonds increase look like Barry had never even heard of PEDs.
Weirdly couldn't care less about anyone else's huge increase in production late in their careers. I said it didn't make sense. |
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I feel like Tony probably got better because pitching got worse as his career went on.
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i collect historical figures but there I draw some lines -- no Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, or Trump.
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This is where the drama begins.
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Same. And I bought the 1956 Topps Adventure set WITHOUT the Max Schmeling card because I like the other boxing cards but have no interest in having a swastika in my collection.
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I collect players and cards I like. I research the players and enjoy the history and the stories behind the game.
I do not truly not buy/or not buy a player based on their politics, behavior, character, etc. If We did there are many, many players we would not collect. Each does as they do.
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Fully agree with this. At the National the first booth I went to had a table full of nazi cards. Really off putting, especially since I went with a friend who is Jewish. There are some lines to draw and that’s certainly one for me.
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This idea has never actually crossed my mind before. For me personally, it wouldn't really matter what their morals were/are as they are not benefiting from me picking up the card.
In regards to the lynching rope, that is truly a bizarre concept and now after I submit this post, will likely go down a long rabbit hole trying to research it. It would be interesting to find out the chain of custody of a rope taken from around a murdered person's neck to being cut up and pieces given to a baseball player. |
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this whole thread makes me think of this quote: "The world is full of bastards, the number increasing rapidly the further one gets from Missoula, Montana."
Personally, I cannot live in a B&W white world, and believe most of us live in gray. Perhaps it's because I'm a teacher, I have to walk into class every day forgetting and forgiving the stupid idiotic things my students (mostly male) do every day. Teenage boys must only have 100 working brain cells, and middle school boys only half that amount. So, when it comes to cards, I don't usually think of a players value to society. I also came to maturity during the steroid era, so that probably taints my opinion as well. Sent from my SM-G9900 using Tapatalk
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Lebron James.
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Avoiding someone entirely? Nope.
Naturally my bias for or against certain players (on and off the field, though never about political affiliations) will lead to focusing more or less on their cards. But never to the point where they affect me enough to ban someone from a collection |
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Because you can't afford them or what?
Trevor Bauer for me. I guess there's a chance he is innocent, and he only beat up that woman because she asked for it, but even that best case scenario doesn't make me want to grab his cards. Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk |
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I went to a game last summer at UCLA's Jackie Robinson Field and Bauer's portrait still decorated the outfield fence. Guess they might want to reconsider that one. Even if he didn't do anything criminal...ewww! Not a role model for the UCLA baseball program.
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I would posit that one should look at the evidence, of which there was none that Bauer was guilty and considerable that the allegation was a lie, before assuming guilt but I know how this board feels about using an evidentiary basis
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Collecting versus buying are different things. Would I buy a Barry Bonds card? Yes. Would start a collection of Barry Bonds cards? No.
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I’d sell my entire collection at a 90% loss before I would own one Lebron card…..and to see an auction where his cards sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars is quite sickening…….IMHO
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Jackie
Were you serious about Jackie Robinson? He's literally the top person I would WANT to collect. I don't think I'm alone here. Not concerned about rumors he may have been a little impolite to a few people or whatever.
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you misunderstood, i was talking about OTHER players (putting the OTHER players in a bad light in the 1950s that had bad things (racist etc) to say about jackie and willie.... thus there are a some OTHER players that some collectors may not want because of how those OTHER players viewed jackie and mays and others....
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Jackie
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