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What was the best 1952 Topps card ..... in 1952?
We all know the Mantle card is the crown jewel of the set. But back in 1952 the Mantle card was probably viewed as a common card.
What card(s) did collectors way back in 1952 want when they opened up their pack? Last edited by Chuck9788; 10-07-2017 at 12:55 PM. |
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Interesting question. The top ten in MVP voting for 1951:
AL: Yogi Berra, Ned Garver, Allie Reynolds, Minnie Minoso, Bob Feller, Ferris Fain, Ellis Kinder, Vic Raschi, Gil McDougald, and Bobby Avila NL: Roy Campanella, Stan Musial, Monte Irvin, Sal Maglie, Preacher Roe, Jackie Robinson, Richie Ashburn, Bobby Thomson, Murry Dickson, and Ralph Kiner There weren't cards of Vic Raschi, Stan Musial, Sal Maglie, or Ralph Kiner, so they're out. I'd go with Yogi, Roy, and Jackie, but you might have to ask someone MUCH older than me. Al? |
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Us old guys, back in the day, liked the Gus Zernial cards because of the way he could make all those balls stick to his bat
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That's not a euphemism is it?
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That is a great question! I think TedZ might have an answer as he remembers purchasing these cards back in 52 but with no Williams, Musial, etc, like Bob mentioned, maybe, because they were new(er) to the market, collectors just had to have them?
I am guessing Bob's picks/choices were likely the main reasons, but it will be interesting to hear what TedZ has to say?
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What was the best 1952 Topps card ..... in 1952?
Bob Feller led the league in wins the year before, and was probably considered a reasonably likely Hall of Fame candidate at that point, so would think he would’ve been desirable in 52.
It’s amazing how cheap Feller cards are these days though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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i doubt mantle was viewed as a common in 1952..being on the yankees and he was a top prospect
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3,781 posts but finally one I agree with you on .
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well i guess you are entitled to be right one time in life..
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This set coming on the heels of the Shot Heard Round The World probably made the Bobby Thomson a good card; but I would bet most people looked forward to the Jackie Robinson. If any of the baseball names were household at that point, it was Jackie.
And so many of the luminaries (at least the ones we consider today) are all in the high series or semi-high series. I bet a lot of the purchasers were like, "where are all the stars?" Did the kids know they'd never get a Musial or Ted Williams in a pack?
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You make a nice point John.
There was no checklist, and the back of the 52's do not indicate how many cards are in the set nor does the wrapper. I guess we'll consult the experts. Was there a way to know how many cards were in the 52 set or who was in the set when you were buying packs in 52?
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From everything I’ve read Mantle was always the card. Maybe not on the way to the five and dime but once kids got a look at it they knew. It just looks important. No other card in that set came close.
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https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...-ever-produced Also, like they mention in this piece, these players were likely highly sought after as well. This sheet featured all-time greats: Phil Rizzuto, Warren Spahn, Gil Hodges, Duke Snider and Robin Roberts. This is also a great piece/site, if you will. Tons of great info which I have used repeatedly for various reasons. http://www.1952toppsbaseballcards.com/
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Interesting advertisement as it relates to Chuck's question, Jason.
I was wondering where Willie Mays would fit into the mix here, but after looking at his stats it appears he didn't really break out until 1954. 1951 was 121 games, 20 HR and .274 avg. 1952 was only 34 games played, and 1953 was off due to military service. 1954 -- 151 GP, 41 HRs, and led league with .345 avg. |
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Nice post, which need not be edited!
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I was not around till long after 1952 but I would think kids would have wanted the best real rookie card in the pack, Eddie Mathews.
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A little before my time but I was under the impression the term rookie card didn't exist back then, and they weren't really a big deal. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I was only 2 in 1952 but seem to have a vague memory of wishing and hoping my Dad would get me a Eddie Mathews rookie card and wondering why the heck He could not find me a Musial card.
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Mantle finished 3rd in MVP voting in 1952. People would have been hot after his card.
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Here is an advertisement for the high number series. Some of the same names we still look out for today!
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I suspect Kiner would have been sought after if he had a card in the set. Had led the league in HRs every year he'd played and was leading in 1952 as well. He was on a ton of magazine covers and a contemporary article I read talked about him as the new Babe Ruth.
Another guy I think was a big star at the time was Dom DiMaggio. But my guess is the most sought after were Berra, Campy, Jackie, Pee Wee, Scooter, and the Mick. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
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I can speak definitively on this question for the West Los Angeles area in 1978...
1. Steve Garvey 2-726: Nobody else even close! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
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Thus, during the 1952 World Series, the last time when baseball would be on the minds of boys, their customers, Topps was banking that Mick's precence would draw boys to buy. It worked for a short time, 'cause Mick really blossomed in the World Series, and Jackie Robinson himself told the press that it was Mickey that killed the Dodgers. Unfortunately, as we all know, Topps was 3-4 weeks too late with their vaunted last series of their special Giant-sized baseball cards. Lots of leftover cases, that were sadly dumped in the deep eight years later. Every time I think of their fate, and all those few dealers of the time that were obviously NOT contacted by Sy Berger et al, all I see is RED! Back to the original question, I am rather certain that a lot of boys in 1952 would have wanted the card of Giant slugger Bobby Thomson, for obvious reasons....... As for Willie Mays, forget it. Say Hey did not play a single game in 1952, as he spent all of his time in the military service, with no end in sight, since we were in the middle of fighting The Korean War. Both Topps and Bowman printed cards of Willie, since he was a key rookie in 1951. The Bowman looks swell, but the Topps card of Mr. Mays looks wretched, with only the 1961 entry looking worse, IMO. ---Brian Powell Last edited by brian1961; 10-08-2017 at 04:21 PM. |
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Here is the very Mantle card I acquired in the Fall of 1952. I paid a nickel at our neighborhood candy store, and opened
up a Topps waxpack expecting to get Mickey. I will never forget that day, as I very carefully shuffled thru the cards and Mickey was in the middle of the stack. Regular season was nearly ended and by then most baseball fans had become quite excited over this 20 year old rookie. He had a great season with 171 Hits....23 HR's....scored 94 Runs....87 RBI's....and, batted .311.......what a coincidence, Mickey's BB card number, how did TOPPS know that ? Whoever here said that Mickey's card was probably a "common TOPPS card" in the Fall of 1952 when the High # series cards were available is forgiven. TED Z . Last edited by tedzan; 10-10-2019 at 12:40 PM. Reason: Replaced old scan with imageevent scan. |
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cool story.....cool you kept that card all those years. |
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I believe I mentioned this before, but I still find it odd that your card has roughly the same mark in almost the same spot as my Mickey. I know it's going back a ways, but do you remember the card coming from the pack with that mark/crease on it?
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When Mantle went to spring training in 1952, his future was a question mark, since his terrible leg injury suffered during the second game of the 1951 World Series had not healed as yet. Moreover, weighing heavily on Mickey was the reality that his beloved father was dying. Extremely rough time for Mick. Shortly after the funeral, Casey put Mickey in center field, as he originally planned. The Bowman of Mantle is numbered 101, which off the top of my head would be a series two card, appearing in Bowman packs in May to early June. --- Brian Powell |
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You are correct....the 1952 BOWMAN MANTLE was issued in BOWMAN's 2nd series cards which were available circa late Spring/early Summer of 1952. When the 1952 Baseball season started at the Stadium, there was a fair number of fans who would often boo Mickey, especially when he Struck Out or mis-played a ball in the Outfield. To be fair to Mickey, a lot of this booing was also due to Joe DiMaggio's absence from the game. But, by the Summer of 1952, Mickey's excellent performance at bat and in the field had turned around those boos into cheers. Indeed, Mickey was a very important factor in the Yankees winning the AL pennant that season. The Sporting News and the New York newspapers really got on the "Mantle bandwagon". I recall quite well when the 1952 TOPPS series of Hi #'s became available..mid-September 1952. And, by then Sports fans, and especially BB card collectors, were all very excited about acquiring anything associated with Mickey. Therefore, timing here has a lot to do with his TOPPS BB card being "hot", while his BOWMAN BB card not getting much respect. TED Z . Last edited by tedzan; 10-08-2017 at 10:31 PM. Reason: Correct typo. |
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Thanks for sharing guys!
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Someday, I'm going to have that Mantle and the Mays. And the Matthews.
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And, to think, my Uncle once owned one but sold it without asking me! LOL.
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