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Old 02-11-2011, 12:38 PM
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Default What do you make of this T206 Wiltse Portrait - No Cap?

Picked this beater up on eBay recently...

My observations:
  • All borders are wavy / uneven (hand cut?)
  • He looks like a ghost
  • His right shoulder (left side of card) seems fuller in the beater
  • He's missing the line around the neck of his jersey

I also own the one on the right. To note, both are Piedmont 150 and are missing the bottom portion of the Y in "N . Y . NAT'L" team designation.



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Old 02-11-2011, 01:57 PM
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I think the worn one was was slightly bigger when taken out of the pack, and was packed around by a kid for a while, probably with other cards, and because its edges stuck out further they got banged up. I think the one on the right got pasted into a scrapbook soon after leaving a cigarette pack. And after it was soaked off of the page it has been handled carefully by modern collectors who haven't banged it around.

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Old 02-11-2011, 02:48 PM
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TRAE!
out treasure hunting ,huh??LOL....your doing great....nice eye...

this one is tougher to tell, i would have to take a look in person..
notice the shading missing in the N.Y. also and the uniform shirt itself...i wish the top and bottom didn't look so "factory cut", but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not scrap....how 's the stock?? the true question is, is it pied 150? or a pied 350??i'm going to guess pied 150...this early run had alot of "errors" and more scrap just inherent of the printing process i assume

these "borderliners" are tuf to tell, some of these are in the eye of the beholder....sgc would just slab this"A", (not missing color) on the flip....i have a sick Butler sgc slabbed "A" which has a double ghosted sov back, hand cut/off register front, but sgc couldn't describe on flip...i have a crumby front scan ...i'll try to post...

BTW...keep up with the great site TRAE!

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Old 02-11-2011, 03:00 PM
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Trae

sorry, didn't see in your post it is a pied 150

Anyway...i have two scraps but they are terrible pics.....

The Burns (thanks ART M.!!) is sweet scrap, the Butler has the crazy back(sorry no scan)....both are obvious scrap, just unable to be differentiated on the flip...
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I was going to say that the beater simply has less red, but then I noticed that the right cheek seems to protrude out more.
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Old 02-12-2011, 04:02 AM
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Daryle,

your right, cheek does protrude out....good observation
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