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Old 12-13-2022, 11:32 AM
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I'm not looking for investment discussion, I'm just asking out of genuine curiosity. Everyone has a card they think is undervalued by the market, and is due to take off in price. Which card do you think will have the highest percentage increase in value over the next 10 years? Feel free to explain your reasoning if you want to.
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Old 12-13-2022, 11:40 AM
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I'm not looking for investment discussion, I'm just asking out of genuine curiosity. Everyone has a card they think is undervalued by the market, and is due to take off in price. Which card do you think will have the highest percentage increase in value over the next 10 years? Feel free to explain your reasoning if you want to.
Are we limiting this to prewar? Or before 1980?
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Are we limiting this to prewar? Or before 1980?
I don't think you'll get a ton of objection if you have a vintage card that happens to fall after the pre-war period. My choice is from 1952.
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Old 12-13-2022, 11:45 AM
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I realized I forgot to include my choice in the initial post. I think the 1952 Topps Jackie Robinson has huge upside. It's exactly as scarce as the iconic Mickey Mantle, is iconic in its own right, and is currently miles behind in price. I'm not saying it's going to surpass the Mantle, but I think it deserves to be much closer in value than it is currently.

I also think Jackie is the most important player in baseball history, which means he has staying power, and his stature will only grow relative to his peers.

Very simply it's an iconic card, from an iconic set, featuring the most important player of all time, and is valued well below another similar card. Seems like a good recipe to me.
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I realized I forgot to include my choice in the initial post. I think the 1952 Topps Jackie Robinson has huge upside. It's exactly as scarce as the iconic Mickey Mantle, is iconic in its own right, and is currently miles behind in price. I'm not saying it's going to surpass the Mantle, but I think it deserves to be much closer in value than it is currently.

I also think Jackie is the most important player in baseball history, which means he has staying power, and his stature will only grow relative to his peers.

Very simply it's an iconic card, from an iconic set, featuring the most important player of all time, and is valued well below another similar card. Seems like a good recipe to me.
I think you nailed it here. I love Babe Ruth as much as anyone. It seems nothing and/or no one is going to catch up to Mantle or Wagner, though. The Babe and Ty Cobb would seem to fall in next in line. While I personally like his 1950 Bowman card best of all his cards, I realize how iconic the 1952 Topps set is to most people, and I would think given how important he is, the 1952 Jackie Robinson would be a no-brainer. Willie Mays likewise. We'll surely see. I am no expert, or investor.
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I'm going to go with the Jean-Donat Dupont Babe Ruth card. The reason is that it is a 1930's issue. No it is not a beautiful card, but for a Babe Ruth collector it is a hidden card. There are only 6 of these cards graded, period. There is one ungraded that I know of. 7 cards of a 1930's Babe Ruth issue is extremely Rare. Sooner or later Ruth collectors will have to take note of this one. Thats my pick for 10 years from now. Frank
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I don't think anyone will get rich but the Kashin Babe Ruth is still underpriced in my opinion. The image is often not the sharpest on some printings but it's a Conlon photo and in my opinion one of the best images of the Babe there is:

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1953 Topps Willie Mays PSA 8 or higher
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I don't see anything that's already worth thousands of dollars multiplying in value hundreds of times over a ten-year period, so it's probably something you can get for under $10 right now that will be worth several thousand in 10 years. And what card is that? I'll never tell.
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I think the Sports King Ruth has tremendous upside, although it has already begun to make a move in recent auctions.
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Johnny you realize the last on of those sold for $190,000 - about double what the price is for a comparable Mantle.
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I agree that the 29' Kashin Ruth is a great player's era visual, courtesy of Conlon, and I'd just add the '30 W554 Ruth, which has the same image. And is a relatively rare issue, with PSA and SGC having graded less than 400 in total for the Kashin and much less for the W554.

And I agree that Ruth Sports Kings is another rare issue with upside. I think these Ruth cards become more attractive as some collectors get priced out of his Goudey's, etc.

I also agree that the '52 Topps Robinson has a lot of upside.

I would just add that I think there could continue to be a lot of price appreciation for the T206 oddities that are needed for a set. Specifically, the Doyle error is crazy rare, with maybe less than 10 extant, and the Plank. The Demmitt and O'Hara St. Louis cards may see the largest % increases though.

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I don't think anyone will get rich but the Kashin Babe Ruth is still underpriced in my opinion. The image is often not the sharpest on some printings but it's a Conlon photo and in my opinion one of the best images of the Babe there is:

Only downfall on this piece is it’s a quadruple print. I love the image!
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Only downfall on this piece is it’s a quadruple print. I love the image!
But the '29 Kashin Ruth is still rarer than many of Ruth's other player days cards with less than 400 graded by SGC and PSA combined.
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The Goudey Ruth's were printed in huge quantities too but it hasn't hurt their value. Same with Cobb T206s. The Kashin is a playing era card of the Babe at the height of his game and the image could not be improved upon (in my opinion). It's still pretty affordable for even the average collector. I don't know how much longer that will be true.

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But the '29 Kashin Ruth is still rarer than many of Ruth's other player days cards with less than 400 graded by SGC and PSA combined.
I agree with Charles...the W554 Ruth is much rarer. The only thing working against it is that it's oversized.

But the real answer to the OP question....is the card that'll appreciate the most is whichever one I don't own.
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I'm going to go with the Jean-Donat Dupont Babe Ruth card. The reason is that it is a 1930's issue. No it is not a beautiful card, but for a Babe Ruth collector it is a hidden card. There are only 6 of these cards graded, period. There is one ungraded that I know of. 7 cards of a 1930's Babe Ruth issue is extremely Rare. Sooner or later Ruth collectors will have to take note of this one. Thats my pick for 10 years from now. Frank
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The one thing that card doesn't have going for it is that "Babe Ruth" doesn't appear anywhere on it.

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The one thing that card doesn't have going for it is that "Babe Ruth" doesn't appear anywhere on it.
Also Babe on the Jean-Donat Dupont card appears to be hitting a popup, so definitely the card will not be a home run in the next or future decades to come.

Brian (just as a reminder, the popup could have been dropped by the opposing team, and if fair, the Babe reached base. Whether popup dropped or not, still a cool card)
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I agree on the ‘29 Kashin Ruth but add as another possibility the ‘29 Kashin Ruth PREMIUM, which is much rarer, higher quality, and at the moment doesn’t cost a fortune if you can find one.
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I'm not looking for investment discussion, I'm just asking out of genuine curiosity. Everyone has a card they think is undervalued by the market, and is due to take off in price. Which card do you think will have the highest percentage increase in value over the next 10 years? Feel free to explain your reasoning if you want to.
If we’re talking percentage increase, then it seems like the most likely suspects would be cards that are currently valued at nothing or something that rounds to nothing. It wouldn’t have to shoot up by much for the percentage increase to be pretty staggering.

In some ways, it’s not that different than an investing competition back in business school. To get the highest returns, the winners almost always invested in penny stocks, simply because if it goes nuts, then your percentage returns are astronomical.

Hard to pick just one, since so many pieces from the 80s and newer fall into this category. But maybe pick some fringe HOFer’s card from the junk wax era, ungraded, but hopefully will grade strong if the value takes off. If you wanted to take a shotgun approach, then buy up cases of unopened wax from this era and see what takes off. Then crack them open and hope you get lucky when something goes nuts.
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I don't wish ill will on the man, but I believe when Koufax passes away, his 55 topps card will blow up.

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Care to list them so I can stay away? 😉
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1951 Bowman Willie Mays without question. His rookie and still very underrated and undervalued.


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'88 Donruss Gregg Jefferies?



Seriously, though, I agree with those who have stated the sharpest increase will be a card that is relatively inexpensive right now. Perhaps a $20 card goes to $2,000 or some other 100x jump.

Hell, Mike Trout's Topps Update went from about $20 to about $2,000 in about 10 years.

As much as I like other cards in this thread, I just can't see them keeping up with a percentage increase like that.
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Centered mid to low grade Mantles. The price of higher grade Mantles will be unattainable for a majority of collectors soon. People will still want a Mantle and that will jump the price of the mid low grade Micks.
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Centered mid to low grade Mantles. The price of higher grade Mantles will be unattainable for a majority of collectors soon. People will still want a Mantle and that will jump the price of the mid low grade Micks.
I think centered vintage pretty much across the board is way undervalued. Finding a truly dead-centered vintage card, at least for most of the 30s, 40s, & 50s sets that I collect, is like finding a unicorn. The number of centered 52 Topps Mantles in existence is around 20.

As more and more collectors wake up to the joke that is PSA's drastically shifting grading standards over time, eye appeal will continue to gain ground in the market. I will gladly pay double or triple "comps" for centered copies of what I'm after. I see this trend getting more aggressive over time as well.
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I think Japanese cards, particularly Oh, have a lot of upside. I've been picking them up since I have no current cardboard object of my acquisition affection.
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1988 Big Topps Ken Griffey.
Ken Jr.'s first Topps card (he looks a little pale).
I've been stockpiling them, but I think there may be enough for y'all to get some too, if you act now.



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No one wants to chime in on this?

If I can pump this bad boy up to even just a dollar in the next ten years, that's a 100x increase. Get in on the ground floor y'all, this elevator is going to the moon!

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It’s easy to say the “house hold” name cards will always stay on top. T206 Wagner, 1952 Topps Mantle, Babe Ruth anything etc. As much as we love type cards and oddball obscure cards & items they will always remain oddball items. I’ve noticed (and I’m sure all or most of you have too) Certain cards and sets run in hot streaks for a time or limited time for unknown reasons.. Example 1952 Topps Mantle, sales, highest graded auction blowout yadda yadda, drove this card’s popularity up (even more than it was) and also had the trickle down effect making collectors seek out his 51 bowman and other cards/issues as well. I have seen more 52 Topps mantles within the last 2 years than my entire lifetime.

T206s and CJ’s respectively take turns out front.

Pandemic and post pandemic besides everything going up, then down. I noticed a huge peak in price of the ex-Negro League players. (Jackie Satch etc) I fell victim of this particular player spike.

Pre-War & Vintage will always be in demand, but which card or sets will be leading the pack? This always changes, this is what I love about the hobby. Here are my honest opinions, to increase heavily over time. Again all vintage increases never decreases (usually)

T206 Wagner
1933 Goudey Ruth’s
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Agree, Wagner and variations of his portrait image in particular have rightfully skyrocketed in the past 1-2 years. A Tip Top sold at auction in Q4 '22 for $15K, and is now exceeding $20K+BP in REA. The significantly more scarce (4 graded copies) W-UNC card just sold via Huggins & Scott auction for $23K+ (nearly caught up with 52 Topps Mick Authentic): https://bid.hugginsandscott.com/bids...?itemid=220195
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I believe the 1907 Ty Cobb postcards are still very undervalued compared to other greats of the day.

The man won 12 batting titles and was the first player to be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Value has gone up, but nowhere near what some of the other guys have been selling at - Mantle, J. Robinson, Gehrig... Population is still low.
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I believe the 1907 Ty Cobb postcards are still very undervalued compared to other greats of the day.

The man won 12 batting titles and was the first player to be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Value has gone up, but nowhere near what some of the other guys have been selling at - Mantle, J. Robinson, Gehrig... Population is still low.
Not just talking my own book, but the W600 Cobb has enormous potential still, just that there are so few of them and they dont trade often (which is actually a negative…). Not hard to see that card be more like the Baltimore News Ruth, other than that Ruth has even more appeal than Cobb.

As for others, seems to me Ryan, Musial, and Ted W have room to appreciate a lot more. Though there are a lot of them, single signed balls of them are particularly cheap. But i would think the Ryan rookie is a great card to hold.

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'88 Donruss Gregg Jefferies?



Seriously, though, I agree with those who have stated the sharpest increase will be a card that is relatively inexpensive right now. Perhaps a $20 card goes to $2,000 or some other 100x jump.

Hell, Mike Trout's Topps Update went from about $20 to about $2,000 in about 10 years.

As much as I like other cards in this thread, I just can't see them keeping up with a percentage increase like that.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
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52 Topps Mays peaked and doubled or tripled in value after Hank Aaron's passing. But like 52 Topps Jackie, I think centered high grade 52 Topps Mays have a lot of room to grow to close the gap with Mick.
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'88 Donruss Gregg Jefferies?



Seriously, though, I agree with those who have stated the sharpest increase will be a card that is relatively inexpensive right now. Perhaps a $20 card goes to $2,000 or some other 100x jump.

Hell, Mike Trout's Topps Update went from about $20 to about $2,000 in about 10 years.

As much as I like other cards in this thread, I just can't see them keeping up with a percentage increase like that.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
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Old 12-14-2022, 09:52 AM
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As much as I like other cards in this thread, I just can't see them keeping up with a percentage increase like that.
I used percentage increase as a way to avoid everyone commenting that the answer is the t206 Wagner or 1952 Mantle, which are likely candidates to see the highest dollar value increase.

You have identified the flaw in my thinking, the answer is absolutely a $10 card that gets a massive spike. Probably something along the lines of the boost the T202 Lord/Tannehill got after people realized Joe Jackson was in the center panel.
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If I have to take a guess on modern, I would say 1993 - 1999 Ken Griffey Jr inserts. Although his cards are pretty strong already. So maybe Frank Thomas, Chipper Jones, Adrian Beltre. Someone who was issued on late 90s Topps Chrome refractors. I think 90s HOFers are waiting to explode.

Earlier than that? You need to buy 80s Tiffany. I think there's still a lot of room to grow in Tiffany - it's very undervalued. 1985 will soon reach 50 years old.

Earlier? Many collectors on this site still are amazed Johnny Bench and Joe Morgan Big Red Machine players are found relatively cheap.

Oddball? I like Kahns. Seems those have room to grow due to rarity.

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On another thread someone posted about the Polo Grounds set, and I added Tom Barker. Both those sets seem extremely affordable for top tier HOF.

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Zero chance that it will be something oversized like an exhibit or a postcard. Nothing wrong with collecting those, or anything else, but whatever it is, it has to have broad appeal. Those never will.
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Zero chance that it will be something oversized like an exhibit or a postcard. Nothing wrong with collecting those, or anything else, but whatever it is, it has to have broad appeal. Those never will.
Unless your broad is into oversized things.

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Zero chance that it will be something oversized like an exhibit or a postcard. Nothing wrong with collecting those, or anything else, but whatever it is, it has to have broad appeal. Those never will.
I don't know. Look at the Jackie 47-66 Exhibits Jackie Robinson card. Has gone up at about the same percentage price increase as the 48/49 Leaf Jackie. Which one has more room to run is difficult to say.

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