Pricing of qualified grading

[Mike Eisenbath]

Greetings all!

Curious how everyone feels about the value of a graded card with a qualifier. For instance, a PSA-4 Miscut T206 ... valued like a straight-up 2? 3? Frankly, I'd buy the card based on eye appeal, so if the MC doesn't affect how I see the card, I'd still be interested. Just don't want to seriously overpay, of course.

Thank you!
Eise


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[icurnmedic]

Pretty much how I approach the price. Usually a 2 grade demerit.
That being said, I personally would prefer a 9 oc,st to a similar centered 7. The 7 will never (well shouldn’t) ever have the qualities of a 9, but other than the “q”, the 9Q should. Just my $.02

[ParisianJohn]

Agreed that the standard for at least the past decade that I've been buying vintage has been to dock 2 grades. I further agree that if the eye appeal isn't hurt much that I would rather have a nice 8 that is off-center or marked than a 6 with no qualifiers.

I have an N28 Allen & Ginter Comiskey from 1888 that is graded at PSA 5 (MK). If the image below you can see the mark, which looks like a couple of dots and maybe that tiny smudge up top that possibly came from a ball-point pen. I also recently learned ball point pens were invented in 1888.

The seller was asking for what a 4 was going for at the time of purchase and I sprung at it. I just don't see how these little dots take the value down two grades. Had they been on the back I'd have paid the value of a 5 for this card. At least that's what I'll try to convince everyone if I ever sell it!

[swarmee]

A couple of dots, but a long pencil mark above the ball cap. I would not have paid a 4 price for this 5(MK). That's a huge mark, which severely detracts from the eye appeal.

[G1911]

For a large pencil mark, more than 2 grades less in price. I cannot understand the logic in how damage from a pen or pencil is not part of the grade. It is after production damage by the end user, like a crease. The PSA system makes no sense at all. A significant mark should allow a card to grade a 3 at absolute best.

For a MC, I would pay over the price of a properly cut card for my T cards, with the rate depending on set and degree of MC. For a Topps card, about the same as a properly cut card unless it’s a 1971 Topps football, in which case the value is unlimited.

An OC, a grade or so less.

[ParisianJohn]

Originally Posted by swarmee

A couple of dots, but a long pencil mark above the ball cap. I would not have paid a 4 price for this 5(MK). That's a huge mark, which severely detracts from the eye appeal.

Oh my God.... How have I missed that for a decade and assumed it was part of the design? LOL!! Okay, now I overpaid.

[Buythatcard]

I would prefer that they do away with qualifiers. Just numerically grade it and take in account any qualifier by reducing the actual grade.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Mike Eisenbath

Greetings all!

Curious how everyone feels about the value of a graded card with a qualifier. For instance, a PSA-4 Miscut T206 ... valued like a straight-up 2? 3? Frankly, I'd buy the card based on eye appeal, so if the MC doesn't affect how I see the card, I'd still be interested. Just don't want to seriously overpay, of course.

Thank you!
Eise


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Qualifiers are stupid. "This card would be mint if it wasn't so horribly off center with print dots". That is ridiculous.

That's like saying "My girlfriend would be beautiful if it wasn't for the third eye in the middle of her face.