Dean's Cards

[deweyinthehall]

So, I've never purchased from Dean's before...stared in bewilderment at some of his prices, but never purchased.

As I'm filling in some cards from 1967, I'm noticing that many of his cards that he describes as VG look EX, EX+ and even EXMT in some cases, which is in my range of condition.

Question - is Dean's a conservative grader, and might some of his VG stuff be considered EX or a little better by others?

Thanks!

[Gorditadogg]

Haha

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[Harliduck]

I'll double that "Haha"


I wouldn't trust a scan, pic, telephone call...ZIP from that p.o.s. of a "dealer"...so I'd say no...if it says VG, my guess is P. From past experience.

[mikemb]

I've had no issues or problems buying cards from Deans. Any stars or cards in excellent condition or better are way overpriced so stay away from them.

I have had no problems with his grading. His very good condition cards are in that condition if not a little better. Has good scans of both sides of all cards. Fast shipping too.

Again, stay away from the overpriced cards.

Dean's is not well liked here. So, you may not get many positive reviews.

Mike

[jchcollins]

Say what you want about Dean’s pricing, but his grading is generally on point and has been for years.


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[Harliduck]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Say what you want about Dean’s pricing, but his grading is generally on point and has been for years.


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I'll clarify...and I've told my story here before...but crib notes my wife who knows zip about cards googled and found them to surprise finish a set for me for Christmas (stole my needs list, )...74 Topps, and she asked for Mint on the phone (only word she knew) and gave them the list. Cards that arrived were creased and hammered, and she paid more than Mint prices (WELL more). Since they sat wrapped for a while, they wouldn't do a return...took advantage of my wife. She never thought to open and look at them, just wrapped the package as it came. She felt like an idiot, and refuses to have anything to do with "cards" since...F them.

[jchcollins]

John, sorry that happened to both you and your wife. I'm speaking obviously only of my personal experience with Dean's. I have not bought much from them at all; their deserved reputation for over the moon pricing has kept me away from a lot of cards that I probably otherwise would have bought at one point or another over the last decade. I will say that I have noticed just within the last year, that there are some vintage items that Dean has come down considerably on in comparison to what we have come to expect from him. I have no idea if he is having success in moving more cards doing this recently or not.

But to the grading: I know Dean's guide (and video) on grading raw cards is pretty much right on. I did business with him on a lot of 1967 Topps commons a few years back after I decided I was going after the whole set. It was a mid-lower lot overall, maybe VG-EX range - and I have to say that I was pleased with their grading.

Your situation of course does not preclude someone reaching into the wrong bin or something else in the vein of a genuine mistake I suppose, but certainly nobody wants to pay Mint prices for VG cards. I would have sent them back.

Originally Posted by Harliduck

I'll clarify...and I've told my story here before...but crib notes my wife who knows zip about cards googled and found them to surprise finish a set for me for Christmas (stole my needs list, )...74 Topps, and she asked for Mint on the phone (only word she knew) and gave them the list. Cards that arrived were creased and hammered, and she paid more than Mint prices (WELL more). Since they sat wrapped for a while, they wouldn't do a return...took advantage of my wife. She never thought to open and look at them, just wrapped the package as it came. She felt like an idiot, and refuses to have anything to do with "cards" since...F them.

[Cliff Bowman]

Bash him all you want, I have bought several unlisted print errors and severely miscut cards from him over the past several years and never had a problem with him. If you are looking for cheaper cards of the same grade then ignore him and look on eBay.

[ALR-bishop]

Agree with Cliff and John C. Sorry about your experience John O

Given what has happened on prices maybe waiting for the market to come to their prices is not such a bad strategy. Seems to have worked for them for years

[toppcat]

I buy midgrade cards from Dean's and have never had an issue.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Bash him all you want, I have bought several unlisted print errors and severely miscut cards from him over the past several years and never had a problem with him. If you are looking for cheaper cards of the same grade then ignore him and look on eBay.

I agree with Cliff. I have purchased from Dean's and have not had issues.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

I agree with Cliff. I have purchased from Dean's and have not had issues.

Me too. I have had nothing but great experiences with Dean's and with the insane price run ups they are now cheaper to buy from than most other places. I just bought 2 T210s from them WAY cheaper than I could find anyplace else.

[Gorditadogg]

I sent you a PM with my email address. Give me your want list and I will send you some EX 67T commons so you can compare them to Deans.

My guess is that Deans is going to send you $15 worth of VG cards but I am curious to find out what you think when you get them.

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[bnorth]

I received the 2 T210s I bought from them today. They actually look better than the high quality scans they provide. Their scans showed off every little chip in those beautiful red borders. In hand you don't notice them as much.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I've bought NM cards from them that graded 9. Past a certain level the Dean's premium isn't worth it, but for certain types of cards I've found them to be just fine.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I've bought NM cards from them that graded 9. Past a certain level the Dean's premium isn't worth it, but for certain types of cards I've found them to be just fine.

What types of cards would that be?

All I see are thousands of overpriced 50s and 60s cards plastered all over ebay and comc. What am I missing?

I understand with their massive inventory you can get some hard to find cards to fill your set and you might find it worthwhile to pay Deans ask to get those. Beyond that though I am not seeing what they have to offer.



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[Chris Counts]

I, too, have occasionally bought something from Dean, and was satisfied.

Dean gets a lot of flack because of his high prices, but I've never heard of him deceiving anybody, which I consider far worse than high prices.