Pinholes-Grading

[yankees23]

I recently acquired an ungraded N28 Anson with a pinhole in it. I'm planning on sending it for grading but I'm curious your thoughts on if either SGC or PSA grades pinholes more harshly? From my experience it seems like SGC grades cards with paper loss lower so I'm curious if the same is true with pinholes? I'll probably send it to SGC but I really want to avoid the dreaded "A." Has no creases so I think it should at least get a "1." Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

[bn2cardz]

A pinhole with SGC and PSA both brought it to a 1 in my experience. A pinhole never by itself put it to an A.

[Luke]

If the card is nice otherwise, you will probably get a 20 from SGC

[Leon]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

If the card is nice otherwise, you will probably get a 20 from SGC

+1. I think SGC is pretty consistent in this area today (though I am sure an anomaly or two exists). This T5 Cobb is close to Near Mint..It is in far better shape than the Clarke next to it.....but has a pinhole. I don't know how PSA grades pinholes but SGC seems a bit harsh (in my biased opinion).

[tschock]

Originally Posted by Leon

+1. I think SGC is pretty consistent in this area today (though I am sure an anomaly or two exists). This T5 Cobb is close to Near Mint..It is in far better shape than the Clarke next to it.....but has a pinhole. I don't know how PSA grades pinholes but SGC seems a bit harsh (in my biased opinion).

I was going to say that the overall impact to the appearance of the card should be considered, as I think that Cobb is MUCH nicer looking. A pinhole in the 'border' of the card is not as big of a beat down than one in the middle of Cobb's head for example (IMO). I guess I'd rather have them grade on the overall appearance of the card while pointing out any obvious (and not so obvious) flaws such creases, pinholes, alteration, trimming, etc. But that puts us down another rabbit hole as well, so back to the old adage.... BTCNTH.

[Fred]

I think if the card is in really good shape then the best you'll see is an SGC20. If the card is relatively beat then the best you'll get is an SGC10. There was an Anson on ebay last night that sold for about $600+ with a pin hole. That card would probably get an SGC10 (or PSA1) because of the overall condition of that card. The price on that card last night was a pretty good deal when you consider there wasn't any back damage and the overall of appearance of the card was VG-ish otherwise.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

A pinhole with SGC and PSA both brought it to a 1 in my experience. A pinhole never by itself put it to an A.

So let me get this straight. I think my card was undergraded. It has seven pinholes and should have received a grade 7. Right???

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

So let me get this straight. I think my card was undergraded. It has seven pinholes and should have received a grade 7. Right???

Frank, crack it out and go for the Gem Mint 10.