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Old 09-23-2024, 11:12 AM
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Default Interesting Ebay Authentication Result...

Been wanting a nice Frank Robinson Rookie, and this one looked pretty nice for the grade. But it was rejected by eBay Authentication, and I was automatically and immediately refunded.

Seemed like this one would pass in routine fashion. I can't imagine what SGC might have missed, and of course you never get any kind of explanation or specifics from them.

Does anyone see a red flag or problem that caused this slabbed card to fail?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/356016882607
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Been wanting a nice Frank Robinson Rookie, and this one looked pretty nice for the grade. But it was rejected by eBay Authentication, and I was automatically and immediately refunded.

Seemed like this one would pass in routine fashion. I can't imagine what SGC might have missed, and of course you never get any kind of explanation or specifics from them.

Does anyone see a red flag or problem that caused this slabbed card to fail?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/356016882607
Looks like that link is redirecting to a different card which is definitely not a 1957 Topps...
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Looks like that link is redirecting to a different card which is definitely not a 1957 Topps...
Figures.... I hate that eBay does this now. When I posted it, they were still showing the card I purchased. Seriously, why can't they just leave the completed listing in tact? What's the point in re-directing you to a completely unrelated card?
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Figures.... I hate that eBay does this now. When I posted it, they were still showing the card I purchased. Seriously, why can't they just leave the completed listing in tact? What's the point in re-directing you to a completely unrelated card?
I agree, very dumb.
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I don't see it either.
What comes up is a CSG graded 1991 Topps East Cost National Frank Robinson
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I don't see it either.
What comes up is a CSG graded 1991 Topps East Cost National Frank Robinson
look at the page, you can still click View Original Listing which brings you right to his card, or not his card apparently.

It's a Just Collect listing so I find it hard to believe the card isn't legit.
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I bought a Jackson Holliday certified 1st Bowman auto a few years ago when he came out in 2022 Draft. It was a Bowman issued autograph but somehow also managed to fail authentication and the auction was cancelled without me ever seeing the card.
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Looks like that link is redirecting to a different card which is definitely not a 1957 Topps...
There's a link at the top right that takes you to to the original listing which reads "View original listing"
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Been wanting a nice Frank Robinson Rookie, and this one looked pretty nice for the grade. But it was rejected by eBay Authentication, and I was automatically and immediately refunded.

Seemed like this one would pass in routine fashion. I can't imagine what SGC might have missed, and of course you never get any kind of explanation or specifics from them.

Does anyone see a red flag or problem that caused this slabbed card to fail?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/356016882607
This kind of thing is pretty common with eBay's "Authenticity Guarantee," and they'll reject things without explanation for something as simple as listing an item in the wrong category or subcategory. For example, I've seen Colgan's Chips fail eBay authentication as "Item Not As Described" because they're listed as baseball cards and not "memorabilia," even though PSA designates them as "Baseball Cards."

I recently had an eBay purchase for two PSA-graded Domino Discs canceled because the eBay authenticator thought they should have been listed as "pins." My money was refunded and I wasn't given the option to go through with the transaction. On the other hand, the next Domino Disc purchase from a different seller failed eBay authentication for the same reason, but eBay just sent it to me anyway with a notice that it couldn't be authenticated.

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More than likely an issue with the slab, such as a thick scratch or a crack (potential crack at the seam on the top-right looking at the pics)

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Old 09-23-2024, 11:44 AM
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Thanks all...

FWIW, here are 3 screenshots (of the actual listing) from my cell phone. Not the best resolution, but perhaps it sheds some light on the problem?
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as Mike said above, it probably was described wrong or listed wrong in the details.

I have purchased postcards that have failed authentication because they were not described as postcards.
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Listing details appear to be correct in all aspects - so that would not be the issue.

Most likely an issue with the slab or the wrong card was sent by accident.

You can contact eBay and see what the "authentication" notes say - they actually usually do keep records on issues with cards that fail the AG program. Or, you could ask the seller Just Collect and see what they know.
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The listing looks perfect. I have no idea why PSA would not authenticate it.

You need to click on VIEW ORIGINAL LISTING to see it
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The one you bought looks better than the 4s I see on eBay. ANY chance it's a fake that made it through SGC?
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as Mike said above, it probably was described wrong or listed wrong in the details.

I have purchased postcards that have failed authentication because they were not described as postcards.
The description looks fine. It was not categorized as a postcard.
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More than likely an issue with the slab, such as a thick scratch or a crack (potential crack at the seam on the top-right looking at the pics)
That NEVER matters. They LOVE to authenticate cards with ginormous Cracks in the slabs that the sellers maliciously hide or don't mention in their ads. Just had it happen again on a 4 figure card. 2 times this year. I don't eevn bother with E-Bay. I just go straight to PayPal and never buy from the seller again. It's a cess pool out there

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This kind of thing is pretty common with eBay's "Authenticity Guarantee," and they'll reject things without explanation for something as simple as listing an item in the wrong category or subcategory. For example, I've seen Colgan's Chips fail eBay authentication as "Item Not As Described" because they're listed as baseball cards and not "memorabilia," even though PSA designates them as "Baseball Cards."

I recently had an eBay purchase for two PSA-graded Domino Discs canceled because the eBay authenticator thought they should have been listed as "pins." My money was refunded and I wasn't given the option to go through with the transaction. On the other hand, the next Domino Disc purchase from a different seller failed eBay authentication for the same reason, but eBay just sent it to me anyway with a notice that it couldn't be authenticated.
The 57T Robinson is clearly a card that falls under ebay's guarantee. It was listed in the correct category as a single card. I don't think whatever issues you had in the past with the guarantee program have anything to do with this Robinson card.
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