Leland's 1968 flannel

[Mark17]

Years ago, I ranked Lelands among the best at accurately describing GU shirts. But after a bad (ridiculously bad) experience, and some other listings I wasn't comfortable with, we now have this listing currently up for bids:

https://auction.lelands.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=117733

From Don Gutteridge's days with the White Sox in his managerial capacity comes this remarkable 1968 Chicago White Sox jersey. Pinstriped size "42" Wilson jersey is complete with wash instructions on the front tail along with an embroidered "68" year tag and "Gutteridge" swatch in the collar. All original with a "Sox" logo on the left breast and a "35" on the right and again on the back, this jersey shows fine use with four team repairs noticed on the front.

Complete?
1. There is no NOB
2. There is no 1968 patch
3. The year tagging (red stitched "68" doesn't look right to me, but this is the least of the problems.)
4. Two pictured shirts of the same guy, year, manufacturer, team, both home, are different sizes. Not necessarily problematic, but curious.

Leland's pics above. Below is what another 1968 Sox home shirt looks like. Coincidentally, same manager:

[perezfan]

That's really bad. So many red flags. The Lelands tagging is indicative of a different year, and that example is very far from being all-original. Here's a link to a Mantle Yankees Jersey from '68 which has the proper tagging for that year. The Wilson tagging matches the other (correct) Gutteridge Jersey to a tee...

https://robertedwardauctions.com/auc...etely-original

Same for this Mays Jersey in SCP....

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/1968...-LOT45735.aspx

Lelands should either amend the description to encompass the alterations, or just pull the lot completely.

[JimmyC]

Originally Posted by perezfan

That's really bad. So many red flags. The Lelands tagging is indicative of a different year, and that example is very far from being all-original. Here's a link to a Mantle Yankees Jersey from '68 which has the proper tagging for that year. The Wilson tagging matches the other (correct) Gutteridge Jersey to a tee...

https://robertedwardauctions.com/auc...etely-original

Same for this Mays Jersey in SCP....

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/1968...-LOT45735.aspx

Lelands should either amend the description to encompass the alterations, or just pull the lot completely.

Nice job Perezfan...and Mark17.....That '68 tag on the offered jersey in auction looks like it was just made yesterday.....

[Mark17]

Some Wilson 1968 shirts have the more conventional tagging, particularly the Angels. That's why, with the Sox shirt above, I could imagine a scenario where the manufacturer tag on the Leland's shirt might differ from the other '68 Sox shirt pictured (and the Mantle and Mays.) But I agree with Jim, that "68" swatch doesn't look 55 years old.

In any case, the missing NOB and missing 1968 Illinois patch are pretty major things to not be mentioned in the listing. It's very disappointing, frankly. Are the people running Leland's that inexperienced, lazy, or what?

Examples of some 1968 Wilson shirts with conventional tagging (all Angels)

[Bobmc]

FWIW, I've collected, bought, sold or traded White Sox gamers for 40 years and have never seen a year tag like the questionable one currently depicted in Leland's auction.