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Substitute a name for “you” in your answer or opinion.
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Babe swung a 54 at times, but I don't think he would have used it today. That would be superman stuff. I am not familiar with many of the AL teams, but I don't believe any of the current players could get around on a fastball with that huge wagon tongue bat. Maybe a slow curve, not the high hard one.
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i can hit the toilet half the time, pretty sure i can hit anything with a wiffle bat.
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I couldn't even hit a tee-ball with a 54 ounce bat.
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Despite romantic tales to the contrary, Walter Johnson was not throwing anywhere near 100 mph heat.
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Having stood in the batters box at the Louisville Slugger Bat Museum exhibit where you can have a simulator throw a ball at the speed of your chosen pitcher it would not matter if the bat was 54 oz of a wiffle ball bat because I tended to back up and close my eyes even with that protective barrier in front of me
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I think if players had an approach like the old players they could use the heavier bats. Some of those old guys had short swings oriented towards contact and that's why they could use the heavier bats. They were almost in a check swing stance before the pitch came in. If they went up there like the mass produced cavemen you see in today's game who are living by the "swing hard and hope for the best" motto, they wouldn't be using the heavier bats.
As for the speed of old pitchers, I use personal experience from a field day contest when I was 15 years old. I had the fastest pitch during the event at 81 MPH and the longest throw of 243 feet in the air. Multiple guys in the 1800s recorded throws of over 400 feet in the air. If I topped out at 243 feet (I hit 238,239,243 on the throws and 78-79-79-81-79 on the pitches), then I'd say they had to be throwing harder than 80 MPH to add about 160+ feet to the throws. It's ridiculous to think old pitchers were just lobbing the ball up there at 80 MPH at their best
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If you count bunting as hitting, then yes.
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If you count HBP as hitting, then yes for me.
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On the "Glory of Their Times" audio set, Chief Meyers points out a bat in the corner of the room he says was given to him by Babe Ruth. You can hear Larry Ritter walk across the room and exclaim in amazement as he picks up the bat. He says, "this must weigh 50 ounces, at least," and the Chief replies, "50 or better than that." Also on the set you have Hans Lobert telling Ritter that when Ruth came up at 19, "his upper body was like Hercules." You can see in photos and films that the Babe's bats were enormous and we know he had no trouble getting around on pitches, to say the least. As for pitching then vs. now, the average pitcher today might be a little faster than the average pitcher 100 years ago due to size and leg strength, but I think Walter Johnson was probably the faster pitcher that ever lived who could also get the ball over the plate consistently. I've never heard of an exercise or strength training that increases the velocity of a pitcher's fastball. Have you?
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I played baseball all through school, then fast pitch softball for a couple of years. Played organized softball in the Navy. Just before I retired from the Navy in San Diego at age 49, I decided to take a few swings in a batting cage with the speed set supposedly to major league, with a 34 ounce bat. It was a dumb idea, to put it mildly.
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Does it count if I can bunt?
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