Questions for dealers

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

So I have accumulated approx 3000 commons from 54-72 majority being 60's. Some hi numbers etc. some minors. Anyways as a dealer there's probably 4-5k resale in it individually if you did shows. If I were to go to a show would a dealer be willing to trade do you think? If I wanted 3k in trade for one card would a dealer be inclined to do it if there was more than 3k retail in my commons in order to bulk up their inventory and turn a profit? Thought are appreciated and welcomed.

[Leon]

Generally as a dealer there needs to be more margin than what you are talking about. Maybe $4k-5k in commons might net you around half that in trade. Just my thought on where I might be. Of course the cards still have to be decent and so forth...

[bnorth]

I agree with Leon on this. With a dealer you would be very lucky to get 50%. I have made a few trades like this and the person with 1 card always gets a premium compared to the guy with a stack of cards. When trading with a dealer you have to consider all the extra time it will take them to unload the lot compared to the single card.

As an example I traded a rare Joe Dimaggio for almost a complete run of Willie Mays cards and received about a 20% premuim for the single card.

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by Leon

Generally as a dealer there needs to be more margin than what you are talking about. Maybe $4k-5k in commons might net you around half that in trade. Just my thought on where I might be. Of course the cards still have to be decent and so forth...

Originally Posted by bnorth

I agree with Leon on this. With a dealer you would be very lucky to get 50%. I have made a few trades like this and the person with 1 card always gets a premium compared to the guy with a stack of cards. When trading with a dealer you have to consider all the extra time it will take them to unload the lot compared to the single card.

As an example I traded a rare Joe Dimaggio for almost a complete run of Willie Mays cards and received about a 20% premuim for the single card.

Guys,

Recount... I have about 8300 commons haha. Majority late 60's early 70's.

All in pages and binders.

over 1000 1969 cards in great shape
over 600 1960 topps cards
over 600 1966 topps cards
and a mix of 300-600 of each other year

So about 300 61's 300 62's etc.

I'd want 4K-5K in trade. You think that is unreasonable? Figure theres gotta be at least 12K resale when broken up.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE

Guys,

Recount... I have about 8300 commons haha. Majority late 60's early 70's.

All in pages and binders.

over 1000 1969 cards in great shape
over 600 1960 topps cards
over 600 1966 topps cards
and a mix of 300-600 of each other year

So about 300 61's 300 62's etc.

I'd want 4K-5K in trade. You think that is unreasonable? Figure theres gotta be at least 12K resale when broken up.

Unless they are in real NrMt condition I would say you would be lucky to get 10% in trade. That many low end commons could take years to unload.

[Huysmans]

I agree with the 10% ratio.
And to be honest, even at that rate I think most dealers would decline.
The space needed, time and work involved, and once the best of the best was gone... there would be a lot of valueless "residue" left over that would never sell.

[bbcard1]

I no longer deal, but I once did extensively. There are times you just look at a deal and say, " That won't work." Even at 10% of your estimated value if I am a dealer and I have $1000 worth of high end (let's say a Cobb Red background, but if you are trying to boil it down to one or two cards, it's going to be high end and sellable cards or else considerably overpriced) inventory versus a monster box of commons, the fact that you can sell one card versus having to lug around the monster box for years, you'll keep the single card. There is a chance that you might find a dealer who has an expensive but slow selling card he has had in inventory forever that he sees as if he sees as inventory he is going to be buried with that he might trade. You would probably be best off to move them as lots on eBay or BST. Even then it's not going to be easy to get to 40% or book value, IMO. The exception is if you peel out the high numbers. The 1961s and 1966s if in any condition at all will do well. Sadly there's not that much demand for the 1969s, which I think is a fun set. Please note, I am often wrong, but I think you are in a position to either do the work yourself or settle for literally pennies on the dollar.

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Unless they are in real NrMt condition I would say you would be lucky to get 10% in trade. That many low end commons could take years to unload.

++ Your NrMt will probably be a dealers Ex. Other way around when your buying. Condition governs here. If they really are Nrmt-Mt (PSA 7/8's), then you hold the leverage and can drive the price because any dealer with half a brain can unload raw vintage high-end cards in a minute for a big profit.

If they show wear, then, IMO, you will have to take what you get.

get a few graded or post a few on here of the general condition. You'll get some better assessments.

[jfkheat]

I doubt that a dealer would offer you $1000 in trade. There would be a lot of work involved in selling the commons that you have. It would probably take the dealer years to recoup his investment. 3000 commons will take up a lot more space on his table than the single cards that you would take in trade.
James

[bbcard1]

If you don't sell them I'll be glad to send you my lists