Babe Ruth Ball Rejected by Heritage

[Thecafewha]

Nothing new here, just thought I'd share my story. I brought about 100 signed items to Heritage offices in NYC about 2 years ago. All of the items were from the estate of a family member. Many of the items did not pass initial inspection, as to be expected. A few more failed PSA authentication. Almost every one had junk or no COA. There were many nice items that did pass and were sold.

This Ruth Ball had both a Match and GAI LOA.

2002 Match LOA by Christopher Schutte

2003 LOA & COA from GAI

Sadly, you can see he paid $10,995 for the ball.

I've only restarted collecting cards recently (after selling through his collection) and I am sure you all have dealt with and discussed this issue to death. Just a shame.

I let the kids play with most of the cheap junk signed balls but for some reason I can't part ways with the Ruth (or Cobb or Ott) even though they are likely not real. Knowing he paid $11,000 probably has a lot to do with it.

Joshua Van Pelt





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[perezfan]

Interesting that Heritage rejected it. Doesn't Mike Gutierrez work for them now?

Anyway, Gutierrez' name is on the Global COA, so perhaps he had a change of mind along the way...

Regardless, I do not think that Goldsmith Ball is as early as 1928 (as was stated in the letter of provenance).

[Thecafewha]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Regardless, I do not think that Goldsmith Ball is as early as 1928 (as was stated in the letter of provenance).

That was one of their concerns. They didn't even send to PSA, they sent pic internally while I was there and sent me home with it.


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[keithsky]

Get ahold of Heritage and ask to speak to Gutierrez and ask him why it didn't pass authentication since he said it was real to begin with. It says right on the GAI COA "Guaranteed Authentic". Doesn't say "Our Opinion" like they say now it specificly says "Guaranteed Authentic". Worth a shot. Make these TPA's responsible for there actions and don't just blow it off as an Oh Well.

[Bpm0014]

Sadly, the Ruth is no good.

[RichardSimon]

I disagree with the previous authentications and agree with PSA.

[mickeymao34]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

Sadly, the Ruth is no good.

Brendan, I know nothing whatsoever bout auto's but can you tell me what is dead give away that this is not the real McCoy?
thanks

[Thecafewha]

I'm not to experienced with autographs but would have to agree with Heritage. It's their reputation and turning away a piece means turning away money. Their authenticators also didn't like the Ty Cobb ball. I junked everything they rejected except for 5 balls and 1 signed book.




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[Thecafewha]

The only autos in my PC are from the 1980's when I was a kid. My parents took me to the bbc shows in Atlantic City and even got pictures of me getting them signed.

I can't rationalize spending crazy money on an autograph but I have paid stupid amounts for action figures. If it's not what you collect or deal in it always seems odd to spend so much.


Joshua Van Pelt