Mantle Ball - UDA vs PSA 9

[Clueless]

I am looking to purchase a Mickey Mantle autographed baseball. What would you choose between a UDA ball with minor toning or a PSA mint 9 ball and why? Thx.

[w7imel]

You have to go with your gut feeling of what autograph you will be most combfortable with to look at and be happiest with. UDA the balls are signed in front of notarys as witnesses I believe while PSA is just their "Expert opinion" PSA is good and even the UDA is not foolproof. The stickers they attach sometimes come off and could be attached to a forged ball. So bottom line if ball wasnt signed in front of you you can never be 100 percent certain. But to the toning issue, I have some balls with Brown being comish that have toning due to some flaw with leather from Hati I belive and the toning only gets worse and worse with time so take that into concideration as well. Good luck

[Clueless]

Thanks. I was able to confirm the authenticity of the UDA ball with Upper Deck. As to the toning issue, is there any risk that a PSA mint 9 ball would eventually tone as well, which would no longer make it a mint ball just as a result of time? I wonder how valuable a mint ball is if it will eventually lose its condition over time. I know it comes down to me, but what would you do?

[w7imel]

What I was saying is I have a ball that UDA sticker fell off of, what is to say I couldnt attach tat sticker to a fake ball sell it and keep good ball. Understand? As far as toning all ball I believe will age and sunlight to some extend. Did PSA put ball in a cube? You might reseach but I have seen UVA resistant cubes that block ultra violet rays

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Clueless

Thanks. I was able to confirm the authenticity of the UDA ball with Upper Deck. As to the toning issue, is there any risk that a PSA mint 9 ball would eventually tone as well, which would no longer make it a mint ball just as a result of time? I wonder how valuable a mint ball is if it will eventually lose its condition over time. I know it comes down to me, but what would you do?

If it is on a BB ball and it hasnt gone bad by now. I would not worry about. I just dont think you should pay extra for a graded ball. Go look on line and see if you see a nice uda ball and buy it. I would rather have a UDA ball over a JSA any time.
They are not signed in front of a notery.

[Clueless]

Originally Posted by shelly

If it is on a BB ball and it hasnt gone bad by now. I would not worry about. I just dont think you should pay extra for a graded ball. Go look on line and see if you see a nice uda ball and buy it. I would rather have a UDA ball over a JSA any time.
They are not signed in front of a notery.

I just don't quite understand why the PSA graded ball always seems to sell at a higher price than a UDA first person authenticated ball. Not sure which will retain greater value in the future.

[w7imel]

are you looking to keep it or sell it? If I am keeping it i would much rather have a ball that is known to be authentic that a ball that has someones "expert opinion" its real just my feeling on it. PSA has done a great job of convincing public that if they certify item its 100 percent legit. As we have seen not always the case. Do your research and be comfortable with ball you buy. If anything these guys have taught me its that. DYODD

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Clueless

I just don't quite understand why the PSA graded ball always seems to sell at a higher price than a UDA first person authenticated ball. Not sure which will retain greater value in the future.

Because it is all bs. If your buying the ball to keep. Buy the UDA ball and be happy. It is total garbage gradeing a ball. It can fade it can become spoted or it can be handled the wrong way and there goes your bs nine.

[w7imel]

Went to PSA site, there cubes are UV coated as well as the have a invisable stamp for authenticating. There are no gaurantees in life but you give yourself a better chance at keeping ball white in UV case I would think. Again no expert just a collector

[w7imel]

Shelly UDA does use a notery correct?

[shelly]

Originally Posted by w7imel

Shelly UDA does use a notery correct?

No . Here is there site no mention of notary.
http://sports.upperdeck.com/memorabi...ity_5step.aspx

[w7imel]

So how did that work? Did they just send a bunch of balls to mick he signed (or someone signed ) then sent back?

[shelly]

Originally Posted by w7imel

Went to PSA site, there cubes are UV coated as well as the have a invisable stamp for authenticating. There are no gaurantees in life but you give yourself a better chance at keeping ball white in UV case I would think. Again no expert just a collector

Any one can buy a uv case. It looses its look when you have PSA or JSA written all over it.