Doug Allen to plead guilty.....

[wonkaticket]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-...icle-1.1888759

Say it isn't so Joe....I mean Doug.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-...icle-1.1888759

Say it isn't so Joe....I mean Doug.

I wonder how this impacts Legendary Auctions?

[calvindog]

But I have emails from Doug in which he denied shill bidding or committing any fraud in the hobby. And I have a phone message he left me denying the same! He assured me he would never engage in fraud and that I could be comfortable in bidding in his auctions! I'm stunned!

Well, I never saw this one coming I can tell you that.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by calvindog

But I have emails from Doug in which he denied shill bidding or committing any fraud in the hobby. And I have a phone message he left me denying the same! He assured me he would never engage in fraud and that I could be comfortable in bidding in his auctions! I'm stunned!

Well, I never saw this one coming I can tell you that.

Does this now mean you won't be giving Mr. Allen a glowing character reference when he comes up for sentencing?

[tbob]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

Does this now mean you won't be giving Mr. Allen a glowing character reference when he comes up for sentencing?

I doubt anyone could out-do Steven Cummings' scathing letter to the court about Mastro which was penned back in early 2013.

[Brian Van Horn]

I bid in Legendary Auctions once. I have stated it before on this board. I will never bid in another Legendary Auction. Once was enough.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

I wonder how this impacts Legendary Auctions?

Have you seen their latest auction? It's as if they turned over the cushions on their couch and whatever they found comprised the auction. I can say this: I wouldn't trust the authenticity of a single autograph or game used item in their auction. Nearly anyone who matters in that auction house is a crook and in desperate times, crooks act desperately -- even more desperately than when they were making money.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Have you seen their latest auction? It's as if they turned over the cushions on their couch and whatever they found comprised the auction. I can say this: I wouldn't trust the authenticity of a single autograph or game used item in their auction. Nearly anyone who matters in that auction house is a crook and in desperate times, crooks act desperately -- even more desperately than when they were making money.

Hey Jeff, let us know how you really feel

[Basilone]

Bad timing for him. Smack dab in the middle of the National. Yikes.

[CMIZ5290]

Wonder why their stuff keeps bringing tons of money?? A lot of collectors evidently still trust and believe in them...

[turtleguy64]

Exactly,it looked like Legendary trolled mom and pop card shops to try and come up with something for this auction which just ended.Pinholes ?Inked ?How the mighty have fallen.

[MikeU]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

I wonder how this impacts Legendary Auctions?

+1

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

I wonder how this impacts Legendary Auctions?

No offense and not a shot at the OP but who cares? It’s not like Legendary Auctions is a major corporation who has tens of thousands of innocent people working for them. This isn’t GM going under, or Boeing it’s an auction house. An auction house which like most in our hobby is made up of a handful of people at best with a few exceptions.

Being blunt Legendary Auctions is a business run by a handful of now well documented crooks who spun off from another now well documented crook/crooks. Who cares what happens to these guys, let alone the shell they operated their crimes under or were linked too.

We all should be furious about this or at the very least just be happy we got our winnings/paid on consignments drop the mic and move on from these jack wagons.

They on the other hand should pay the price for preying on their clients who trusted them, and the hobby that gave them the opportunity to make a great living. Not a lot of folks get the chance these guys did in life. Such a shame greed had to have them piss it away. I can’t even figure why anyone would want to be friends with these guys now. Let alone wonder or think about what happens to their business.

Just my two cents…

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

No offense and not a shot at the OP but who cares? It’s not like Legendary Auctions is a major corporation who has tens of thousands of innocent people working for them. This isn’t GM going under, or Boeing it’s an auction house. An auction house which like most in our hobby is made up of a handful of people at best with a few exceptions.

Being blunt Legendary Auctions is a business run by a handful of now well documented crooks who spun off from another now well documented crook/crooks. Who cares what happens to these guys, let alone the shell they operated their crimes under or were linked too.

We all should be furious about this or at the very least just be happy we got our winnings/paid on consignments drop the mic and move on from these jack wagons.

They on the other hand should pay the price for preying on their clients who trusted them, and the hobby that gave them the opportunity to make a great living. Not a lot of folks get the chance these guys did in life. Such a shame greed had to have them piss it away. I can’t even figure why anyone would want to be friends with these guys now. Let alone wonder or think about what happens to their business.

Just my two cents…

John, you clearly never received a free catalog. Or consigned items to Mastro/Legendary and shill bid your lots up. Or needed Doug or Bill to maybe throw a few bucks at you and that thin reed of a hope was enough for you to defend them. As for what remains of Legendary what remains of them now? Their auctions are filled with nothing and the people who run the place are going to jail.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

No offense and not a shot at the OP but who cares? It’s not like Legendary Auctions is a major corporation who has tens of thousands of innocent people working for them. This isn’t GM going under, or Boeing it’s an auction house. An auction house which like most in our hobby is made up of a handful of people at best with a few exceptions.

Being blunt Legendary Auctions is a business run by a handful of now well documented crooks who spun off from another now well documented crook/crooks. Who cares what happens to these guys, let alone the shell they operated their crimes under or were linked too.

We all should be furious about this or at the very least just be happy we got our winnings/paid on consignments drop the mic and move on from these jack wagons.

They on the other hand should pay the price for preying on their clients who trusted them, and the hobby that gave them the opportunity to make a great living. Not a lot of folks get the chance these guys did in life. Such a shame greed had to have them piss it away. I can’t even figure why anyone would want to be friends with these guys now. Let alone wonder or think about what happens to their business.

Just my two cents…

First off, I never once bid on their auctions so I think you misinterpreted my question as if I would be on suicide watch to learn Legendary is now defunct.

Like you, my hope is that Legendary is now out of business permanently and not run by some puppet management until Allen and company return from the hoosegow.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Doug Allen's admission that he runs a "full gouging retail [auction]" where bidders "are pushed to the next level" with a "safe environment to buy" (See excerpt 3:58 through 5:15).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkOLo758vTE

[wonkaticket]

Good video Dan, ahh how to build a world class...

Dan read my post I say no shot at the OP, wasn't aimed at you. Just have heard that a bunch "what will happen to Legendary" from lots of folks that's all my post was about.

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

a "full gouging retail [auction]" where bidders "are pushed to the next level" with a "safe environment to buy"

Here is some of the game used equipment where folks were...ummm how did Doug phrase that....oh that's right "pushed to the next level" if you will.