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Old 04-26-2013, 09:30 PM
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Default T3 Turkey Red Master Set - COMPLETE

Hi,

A year or two ago, I asked PSA to consider creating a T3 Turkey Red Master Set in their set registry that would include all the card front variations as well as the Second Series "Turkey Red" back variation that they had noted on slabs since they started grading T3s. I think the original number of cards was listed at 145 or so, but as difficult front/back combinations were located and were graded, the number grew to where it stands today at 152. While there are a few possible cards that may one day be added, I think 152 may stand for a while.

Today I added number 152 to my registry and by PSA standards, completed the first T3 Turkey Red Master Set!

The set itself includes some extremely scarce front/back combinations, including 5 cards with total graded populations (all grades) of 1, 4 more cards with a total graded population of 2 and 1 card with a total graded population of 3.

A true T3 Master Set would actually be comprised of 252 different front/back combinations, but since PSA didn't differentiate the three First Series backs (1-75, 1-76 and the 1-76 "No-Ad" variations), we'll need to go with 152 for now. I've asked them to consider identifying the "No-Ad" backs at some point as these are quite unique, but haven't heard back. As for my set in this regard, I have all the available 1-75 and 1-76 checklist cards and 42 out of 50 "No-Ad" backs. Thats a grand total of 244 of 252.

Thanks for allowing me to share. It is an amazing set, absolute pieces of art and quite addictive.

Happy Collecting,
Craig
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:54 PM
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Awesome accomplishment, Craig. I've recently done a ton of research into the set, often using your website, and I've learned what a tough challenge it is to complete a T3 master set.

Congratulations!

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Old 04-26-2013, 09:57 PM
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Craig,

Congratulations...truly beautiful set and an awesome accomplishment! One of my favorites for sure.
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most impressive craig! a complete t3 set is like 8 t206 sets due to their size.

t3>t206 !!!
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Craig, Congrats!
You are the T3 King!
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:33 PM
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Craig, Great job, fantastic accomplishment.

I was wondering how many proofs you have in your set. As you know I have one.
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I continue to be amazed at the sets and cards Net54 members have. Congrats on your new set!
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Congrats on a huge collecting accomplishment and a beautiful set!
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Just amazing Craig! Congrats!
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Very nice Craig! Thanks for all your help in my quest as well
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One of the best sets in the hobby. Nicely done -- congrats!
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Congrats!
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:21 AM
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Craig - congrats. And thanks for answering my questions about T3's over the years.
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Hi,

A year or two ago, I asked PSA to consider creating a T3 Turkey Red Master Set in their set registry that would include all the card front variations as well as the Second Series "Turkey Red" back variation that they had noted on slabs since they started grading T3s. I think the original number of cards was listed at 145 or so, but as difficult front/back combinations were located and were graded, the number grew to where it stands today at 152. While there are a few possible cards that may one day be added, I think 152 may stand for a while.

Today I added number 152 to my registry and by PSA standards, completed the first T3 Turkey Red Master Set!

The set itself includes some extremely scarce front/back combinations, including 5 cards with total graded populations (all grades) of 1, 4 more cards with a total graded population of 2 and 1 card with a total graded population of 3.

A true T3 Master Set would actually be comprised of 252 different front/back combinations, but since PSA didn't differentiate the three First Series backs (1-75, 1-76 and the 1-76 "No-Ad" variations), we'll need to go with 152 for now. I've asked them to consider identifying the "No-Ad" backs at some point as these are quite unique, but haven't heard back. As for my set in this regard, I have all the available 1-75 and 1-76 checklist cards and 42 out of 50 "No-Ad" backs. Thats a grand total of 244 of 252.

Thanks for allowing me to share. It is an amazing set, absolute pieces of art and quite addictive.

Happy Collecting,
Craig
www.t3turkeyred.com
As a set collector I know that is quite an accomplishment! Congrats!

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Congrats!!! Impressive accomplishment my friend.
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Well Done, Craig. Can you post scans of all the back variations. Is there more than 4?

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Old 04-27-2013, 10:38 PM
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do you have all the different Doolan / Doolin variations...?
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:04 PM
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Hi Lee,
I have scans and small write-ups on each back variation from both series on my website. Probably best to refer you there - www.t3turkeyred.com. In general, first series cards will have 3 backs available, second series cards will have two.


Hi Marc,
I have the Doolan w/checklist and Turkey Red back and the Doolin w/Turkey Red back. Previously, I'd been convinced that the Doolan would only exist with a checklist back, but then after years of looking, was shocked (and pleased) to find it with the Turkey Red back as well. The Doolin is an extremely rare card, but I'm confident that the Doolan w/Turkey Red back is actually much more rare.

As an aside, I also have a beautiful Doolin card with a blank back. I think there is good reason to believe it is a proof, but can't really be sure.

Best to you both,
Craig
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very nice site Craig and thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. Always nice to learn more about vintage cards.

Its so cool when you find a card you thought did not exist, like the Doolan Ad back.

That happened a month or so ago when Doug showed us the Crandall Uzit t206.

This is why we collect. its nice when the old 54 shines through.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:35 PM
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Congrats on establishing and completing the Master T3 set! It will be interesting to see if the list grows. Thanks for sharing your website and research. A T3 Tigers card is on my National wishlist this year and I really enjoyed looking through the images on the site.
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Mike... so are you going with the Wild Bill Donovan or the Sam Crawford?
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