Opinions on T206 Cards with the name on top and bottom.

[wazoo]

Recently, I have found many people enjoy T206 cards with both the name on top and bottom. People also say that these types of cards have there own market. What are all of you guys' opinions? I really started noticing this when I first bought a PSA 6 John Hummel card. The card is gorgeous, but sadly it had the (MC), which apparently limits its value.

[t206hound]

It really depends on the collector; a miscut card affects the technical grade (either with or without a qualifier) since the centering or demensions are far from perfect.

But others, including myself, love collecting cards with interesting miscuts. The prices for these really seem to swing wildly... right now, they seem to be going for no more than a non-miscut card at the same grade (at least this was evidenced by my latest Sterling consignments).

For me a card with typical MC qualifier isn't going to get my attention. Partial names on top or bottom are easily found. If I find a card I like, I'll pay a premium for it... like I did for this Rossman:

[wazoo]

That is one amazing card! I personally believe miscuts are really unique, and worth the price, if not more. It really shows a piece of the past, showing how card printing was not even close to perfect. Thanks for sharing that. I'll put on my John Hummel card tonight on this forum if you'd like to check it out.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by t206hound

It really depends on the collector; a miscut card affects the technical grade (either with or without a qualifier) since the centering or demensions are far from perfect.

But others, including myself, love collecting cards with interesting miscuts. The prices for these really seem to swing wildly... right now, they seem to be going for no more than a non-miscut card at the same grade (at least this was evidenced by my latest Sterling consignments).

For me a card with typical MC qualifier isn't going to get my attention. Partial names on top or bottom are easily found. If I find a card I like, I'll pay a premium for it... like I did for this Rossman:

Erick, that's a real beauty. I've got a two-name Rossman as well, but the top name is only a partial

[2dueces]

Eric, nice card. Love the extra large border. I wonder how many T206's had those large borders before the grading craze took the hobby by storm?

[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by 2dueces

Eric, nice card. Love the extra large border. I wonder how many T206's had those large borders before the grading craze took the hobby by storm?

Excellent question. Everything I've heard anecdotally is that this happened to *raw* cards back in the 1980s when a well-known T206 collector started paying premium prices for MINT examples (mint by the definition at the time).

As a result, the average size of a T206 card decreased, with a number of oversized examples being right-sized to "typical" size to achieve the MINT premium.

I am sure there are quite a few board members here who could elaborate in greater detail-
Marc

[teetwoohsix]

I really like the T206's with the name at the top and bottom, like that Rossman with the huge top border. I also like the rarities of a different name at the top.

Some of the large border cards can almost give you an idea of what area of the sheet they seem to be from. I recently picked up this Waddell from the BST, and with an uneducated guess I'd think this card may be from the top of the sheet, because I'd think there's enough top border that it would've shown at least the bottom portion of the letters from the card that would've been above it.

This Nicholls mis cut back would lead me to think it's from the bottom of the sheet.

Now, for all I know there may have been a separation space in the middle of the sheet, which could change everything I just said There are others who are way more educated about the printing proccess than I am on the board.

Sincerely, Clayton