1994 UD Mantle Griffey dual auto

[Woundedduck]

I'm thinking of picking one of these up, but I'm pretty worried about ending up with a forged Mantle. Are there a lot of these out there with forged Mantles? I've been checking the raw ones on ebay and they seem to be pretty good to me. Aside from only buying graded, how can I avoid getting a bad one?

[drc]

The cards don't exist unsigned. The were made to be signed. However, single signed cards have had the second signature forged. So there are a good number of examples with a good Griffey and a fake Mantle. I'd get a good opinion on the sigs and be careful.

This does however mean that any single signed card is authentic, griffey or mantle.

[Woundedduck]

I'm guessing there aren't many good mantles with forged griffeys so the mantle is where I've been focusing. I don't trust my own opinion, but worry about creating competition by asking about specific examples in an open forum. Blah, the whole thing just makes me nervous

[drc]

Yes, I believe the Mantle is the one to focus on. However, I'm sure Griffeys sig was in demand at the time.

But you know at least one of the sigs is genuine, which is a good start.

[drc]

Supposedly the same number of cards were produced by UD (the 2 single signed plus the 1 dual signed). Yet notice the dual signed outnumber the single signed. Hmmm.

[Woundedduck]

drc I really appreciate your help. I'm in no hurry to pick one of these up and I'm trying to be patient as I really want to make sure I don't get fooled. I did a sampling of what's on ebay right now. I'm hoping to get some opinions from any that are willing to share as to what they think about these. Hopefully this will help educate me and possibly others that are looking at this card or Mantle autos in general. What do you all think of these? If any look fishy, what makes them look not genuine?:









Thanks for any further help.

Something about the 2 just before the PSA/DNA example looks off to me, whether it be the loops of the Ms or the end of the Y, maybe even the thickness of the marker used, but I don't know if I'm being overly critical and I don't have enough experience yet.