cards that dont exist but are in the bible

[sflayank]

please prove me wrong if u can anyone?
1941 harry hartman debt of gratitude
1946 sports exchange aaron robinson throwing
1952 num num kennedy with the tab?
1962 kahns perry indians back
1962 kahns purkey no autograph
1962 topps stamp panel white/mcbride
1963 idl pirates bob skinner
1969 kahns ron santo red
1969 fleer 3-d team trophy expos
1962 fleer logos mets colts twins angels these are redbacks
1967 punchouts gibson grote campaneris macmillan b.robinson 100% sure these dont exist
1968 plaks mays aaron peters robinson drysdale 99% sure
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[bcbgcbrcb]

1940 Michigan Sport Service Hal Newhouser?

[Exhibitman]

Are the cards never made cards or existed but are not known at present cards?

[sflayank]

plaks and punchouts were probably never made
the num num kennedy with tab was made..are there any left i dont know
the other stuff i have no idea if they were made if they exist or what
hoping to get proof of their existence here

[sflayank]

well 126 views so far and noone has one of these cards or even a scan of one?

[ALR-bishop]

Larry---my experience is consistent with yours on the 67 Punch Outs, the 68 Plaks, the 62 Fleer red Logos and the 69 3D Fleer Caps. If you are right, I am done with those. I do not do the others from your list.

By the way, I assume you would include the 62 Sievers as an Athletic in the myth category as well

[sflayank]

hi
i didnt even realize sievers athletic stamp was listed in the book
i have my doubts on that one too...I have to ask bob lemke where some of these came from
when i send him new additions i almost always send him a scan
so im curious how these items get in there
larry

[sflayank]

ok 436 views
punchouts plaks dont exist
harry hartman debt of gratitude doesnt exist
69 fleer expos doesnt exist
62 fleer mets colts dont exist
62 fleer angels twins dont exist even though they appear in 61 set...thats pretty weird
62 kahns purkey no auto and perry indians DO exist
although the people who have them wont show us
the num num kennedy with tab exists probably less than 5
how about the kahns 69 santo RED?
the aaron robinson throwing sports exhange?
63 idl pirates skinner?
and what should be the easiest to prove the 62 stamp panel of white and mcbride

[drdduet]

How does one prove that a card doesn't exist? Wouldn't it just be speculation?

[sflayank]

original post is prove me wrong that they don t exist
so show me a scan of any of those mentioned and youll prove it

[oaks1912]

I agree with Drduet (Post #18). Many truly rare cards have been locked in private collections for decades and simply do not circulate in the hobby. There are several that I question the existence of myself, but until the original source of research can be identified, both Beckett & Krause / FW are right in keeping the listings intact. Additionally, there are hundreds, if not thousands of longtime collectors that do not monitor this board, or other online boards, for a variety of reasons. Not to say that there are not errors in the various checklisting resources. It is a good idea for advanced specialists to compare notes, and isolate the questionable items, as your initial post sought to do, but keeping in mind that there are many 'one of a kind', or 'less than fives' in the hobby. Monitoring larger auctions or Ebay, which only goes back a dozen years will provide incomplete research.... Regarding scans, I do not do scans, but I'll happily provide you with color copies of the above cards (They will be marked as coming from my collection to prevent misuse of the image), provided that you mail a check to the charity of my choice (The Association of Professional Ball Players of America) in the amount of $100. The APBPA helps hundreds of ballplayers annually and at least someone will truly benefit from this query. You can email me privately and we can exchange mailing info.

[sflayank]

you dont say which cards you have color copies of
so how can i make a decision
u can email me sflayank@aol.com