Anyone know why this was rejected ?

[MikeGarcia]

I submitted 60 rather expensive 1930's cards at the Philly show 4 weeks ago and they came back in today's mail ; all the other Worch Cigar cards in the submission were correctly identified and slabbed but not this one ??
Is it ''UNC'' to PSA perhaps ? Do the specs guys at PSA not keep current with new discoveries ?; Bob Lemke has this exact same card pictured on an old blog post when he last updated the Worch Checklist
..... they kept the $15 grading fee though .
....Joe O. , if you're reading this , please go downstairs and educate your groundlings about the importance of putting Bob L. on speed-dial .
Oh , and you owe me fifteen dollars. Regards , Mike

[Bridwell]

If you call PSA, I would expect they would give you a $15 voucher for a 'no grade' of this type. I'm sure they are hesitant to slab a new addition to the checklist.

I see your frustration, though. Would be nice if they would call you to discuss it before just sending it back.

[Griffins]

I've had that happen before- it's just not in their database. I sent Joe the info directly and it got taken care of.

[Pat R]

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[FrankWakefield]

Pat, the Orth card has had its top border cut sometime after it was produced. That's a new cut at the top.

Mike, it seems grading companies grade cards, they don't identify cards (actually, I think they merely take people's money, but a bunch of folks think they at least grade cards). Seems to me that you should be able to send it back and get it graded for free at this point.

[Pat R]

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[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

I submitted 60 rather expensive 1930's cards at the Philly show 4 weeks ago and they came back in today's mail ; all the other Worch Cigar cards in the submission were correctly identified and slabbed but not this one ??
Is it ''UNC'' to PSA perhaps ? Do the specs guys at PSA not keep current with new discoveries ?; Bob Lemke has this exact same card pictured on an old blog post when he last updated the Worch Checklist
..... they kept the $15 grading fee though .
....Joe O. , if you're reading this , please go downstairs and educate your groundlings about the importance of putting Bob L. on speed-dial .
Oh , and you owe me fifteen dollars. Regards , Mike

.....I'd finally found enough evidence and documentation acceptable to the Spec's Dept.'s graybeards at PSA , some of whom evidently are actually older than 29 and are really , like us on 54 ,''real card guys''-------- so a '' new-to-the-hobby'' find is now officially into the pages of the Pop Report.... so I must say a big thank you to the members on this forum for their help and advice , and to the PSA guys who made the decision , and to them I must add that I'm sorry for some of the snarky and snide comments Dan has made and please lift his restraining order .

[nolemmings]

Congrats on your slabquest. Now maybe PSA will adjust its designation for the Worch set to get the date(s) right, since as I mentioned Stratton only played for St. Paul in 1935 and thus his picture in a Saints cap could not have been from 1933 (he didn't even begin pro ball until 1934). Oh well, baby steps. Very nice card, BTW.

Nice to see your card of Bob Fenner too. According to baseballreference.com, that gentlemen is still with us today, at 105 years young.

[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Nice to see your card of Bob Fenner too. According to baseballreference.com, that gentlemen is still with us today, at 105 years young.

I believe Fenner died in 1984. I have run into others that were never updated. Gene Trow was another St. Paul player that died a while ago that is still listed as living. Wouldn't it be fun to talk baseball with those guys!

[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Now maybe PSA will adjust its designation for the Worch set to get the date(s) right, since as I mentioned Stratton only played for St. Paul in 1935 and thus his picture in a Saints cap could not have been from 1933 (he didn't even begin pro ball until 1934).

You are right about that too. I have a Pinky Hargrave with the Millers and he wasn't there until 1934.

I just checked a few other guys and Marty Hopkins last year with St. Paul was 1934, Jack Warner's first year with St. Paul was until 1934, and Eddie Leishman's only year with St. Paul was...1934.

[nolemmings]

Wouldn't it be fun to talk baseball with those guys!

Not really--at least not if it meant I was dead too

Sorry for hijacking, but Chris is this what the Hargrave you own looks like?
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[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Not really--at least not if it meant I was dead too

Sorry for hijacking, but Chris is this what the Hargrave you own looks like?
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Thanks for the response. I actually had a Hargrave, but am dying to see a scan of the Rosenthal. He was from St. Paul, played for the Saints, then made it all the way to the Bigs. He was a local hero here, so it would be great to pick one up someday, but I haven't even seen a scan of one.

[Bugsy]

BEAUTIFUL CARDS!!!

I collect St. Paul Saints stuff and Worch put out some incredible Saints/Millers cards. I have been looking for the Larry Rosenthal for a while now and I have never even seen a scan of one. You will have to post an image if you ever get one.

Congratulations and good luck with the rest of the set!

Chris