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Old 07-15-2024, 08:42 PM
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Have to add my congratulations as well. Happy I was wrong, lol.
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congrats! I'm not surprised at all. A shame there's one less HAGER slab out there! Great Score!!!!
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From chicken shit to chicken salad. Beautiful.

Such a clear case of bias on the original submission. You gotta know that PSA won’t take a shot at being burned on an ASA card.
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From chicken shit to chicken salad. Beautiful.

Such a clear case of bias on the original submission. You gotta know that PSA won’t take a shot at being burned on an ASA card.
Agreed. They probably never even looked past the holder.
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From what I'm seeing from recent sales, $200k seems a little generous. Maybe $30-50k, depending on how nuts the bidders are willing to get during the auction.

A PSA 1 just went for $16,800 last night. There have only been a handful of sales this year all low grades. A SGC 3 went for nearly 30k in heritage as well a couple months ago.


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There's an old flip PSA 4 in H&S right now. Yes, I suppose that equates to a modern PSA -6...
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Old 07-19-2024, 10:41 AM
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There's an old flip PSA 4 in H&S right now. Yes, I suppose that equates to a modern PSA -6...

I’ve actually seen the opposite, newer flips equate to 2-3 grades lower on comparable cards from older flips


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I’ve actually seen the opposite, newer flips equate to 2-3 grades lower on comparable cards from older flips
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The "Mona Lisa" cards are:

Baseball: T206 Wagner
Basketball: Bowman Mikan
Football: National Chicle Nagurski
Hockey: C55 Vezina

I'm happy to say that I currently own two of these cards.
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A PSA 1 just went for $16,800 last night. There have only been a handful of sales this year all low grades. A SGC 3 went for nearly 30k in heritage as well a couple months ago.


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Fair enough. Maybe it will go nuts if it goes to auction. But $200k nuts seems unlikely.
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Fair enough. Maybe it will go nuts if it goes to auction. But $200k nuts seems unlikely.

Won’t be mine going to auction anytime soon. With only two 5.5s going to rely on other comps for value. A PSA 6 sold last year for nearly 100k but I’d argue eye appeal was not as good as mine and they’ve been steadily rising since.


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The "Mona Lisa" cards are:

Baseball: T206 Wagner
Basketball: Bowman Mikan
Football: National Chicle Nagurski
Hockey: C55 Vezina

I'm happy to say that I currently own two of these cards.

Biggest reason I was looking for a nagurski is its rarity and status in the hobby also the set and image is very cool. I’ve also heard it called the T206 Wagner of football, if that’s the case it’s way undervalued.


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Won’t be mine going to auction anytime soon. With only two 5.5s going to rely on other comps for value. A PSA 6 sold last year for nearly 100k but I’d argue eye appeal was not as good as mine and they’ve been steadily rising since.


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Even better. So aside from insurance purposes (and maybe proving to the wife that this is a great investment of all your free cash flow), the current value isn’t particularly important.
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Even better. So aside from insurance purposes (and maybe proving to the wife that this is a great investment of all your free cash flow), the current value isn’t particularly important.

Yeah it’s appropriately insured in my vault off site and she’s on board with the long term outlook on this card knowing it’s potential down the road.


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Biggest reason I was looking for a nagurski is its rarity and status in the hobby also the set and image is very cool. I’ve also heard it called the T206 Wagner of football, if that’s the case it’s way undervalued.


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Totally agree. This could be a $5-10 million card someday.
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It's definitely trimmed on the top edge. PSA just missed it the second time around. Not that it matters now though lol. Just don't crack it out!
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The centered ones do also appear to have smaller boarders. Here's one for reference.
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It's definitely trimmed on the top edge. PSA just missed it the second time around. Not that it matters now though lol. Just don't crack it out!
I'm glad I'm not alone in this thought, but we also are basing our opinions solely with the "aid" of scans. Maybe having the card in hand would change viewpoints. While we can hope that extra attention would be given to a high profile card, I'd be a complete fool to never put anything past anybody.
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The borders of the PSA card look much whiter, is that just scan settings?

If Travis is right, that would restore my faith in ASA.
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The card does appear small but I have seen lower graded examples with even smaller top and bottom borders. Might be trimmed but the two right corners appear to have been filed. The card does appear much more white after being broken out and then even more so once the card graded by PSA but the image is much smaller so hard to tell. All of this is based on scans which can be deceptive even if done on the same scanner.

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Those are two reasons. Both are A-OK with me, as I am the same way with nearly all of my cards.
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It's definitely trimmed on the top edge. PSA just missed it the second time around. Not that it matters now though lol. Just don't crack it out!
Can assume anything going off the scan, again in hand all edges look the same under magnification and black light, also if that were the case it doesn't appear short in the holder? Not to mention the first pics are terrible and don't represent the card well.

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The card does appear small but I have seen lower graded examples with even smaller top and bottom borders. Might be trimmed but the two right corners appear to have been filed. The card does appear much more white after being broken out and then even more so once the card graded by PSA but the image is much smaller so hard to tell. All of this is based on scans which can be deceptive even if done on the same scanner.

Well I can tell you all I did was crack it out and sent the card in within 2 hrs of receiving it. The boarders were much whiter in hand which I attributed to the different pics/scans. Original was not a scan and PSA notoriously uses bright scan settings.
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