T206 sheets: Huge factory numbers at back bottom

[FrankWakefield]

12 cards horizontally, as Ted said, makes sense. I've known him to be right occasionally.

[Jobu]

Terrific timing to bump this thread.

Sheet numbers remind me of several people, all represented in this thread, but I was just thinking about one of them yesterday when I was thinking about the upcoming Chicago National (where I first met him in 2015 after months of pms): Jantz. Jantz, we still miss you buddy.

Time to update the list too - nothing new, but a bit more info added:

(All are factory 30 unless noted)

1. Ames (port) - Factory 25 and Factory 30
2. Beaumont
3. Clarke (port)
4. Cobb (bat on)
5. Dahlen (Brooklyn)
6. Dooin
7. Durham
8. Gilbert
9. Hemphill
10. Johnson (port)
11. Jones, Fielder (port)
12. Keeler (with bat)
13. Killian (pitching)
14. Mathewson (port)
15. McGraw (port no cap)
16. Merkle (port)
17. Overall (port)
18. Seymour (batting)
19. Spade
20. Steinfeldt (port)
21. STOVALL
22. Tannehill ("L" on front-Chi.)
23. Wagner (bat left)

Weird thing on the right side:

1. Rhoades

[Ronnie73]

This has always been an interesting post to me. I don't have many Sweet Caporals but lucky enough to have a Ginger Beaumont with a Factory 30 mark. Many know that I collect all the front/back combo's and wondered if there are collectors that actually collect these cards as their own special T206 subset?

[Luke]

Found a new one:

[Jobu]

Nice find Luke!

Not new, but I am including another example of a Cobb bat on.

Here is the updated list:

(All are factory 30 unless noted)

1. Ames (port) - Factory 25 and Factory 30
2. Beaumont
3. Clarke, Fred (port)
4. Clarke, JJ
5. Cobb (bat on)
6. Dahlen (Brooklyn)
7. Dooin
8. Durham
9. Gilbert
10. Griffith (port)
11. Hemphill
12. Johnson (port)
13. Jones, Fielder (port)
14. Keeler (with bat)
15. Killian (pitching)
16. Mathewson (port)
17. McGraw (port no cap)
18. Merkle (port)
19. Overall (port)
20. Seymour (batting)
21. Shipke
22. Spade
23. Steinfeldt (port)
24. Stovall
25. Tannehill ("L" on front-Chi.)
26. Wagner (bat left)

Other back marks:

1. Rhoades (loop on the right)
2. Owen (splash? on the bottom)

[Leon]

I see my red marker is working fine . ...

Nice work on the sleuthing....

Originally Posted by Luke

Found a new one:

[Jobu]

Not a new subject for a sheet number, but a new scan for this thread.

[T206.org]

Are any theories on why the factory designation is slightly off-center to the left on Hindu backs?

Maybe some extra bit of information was axed from the right side close to production and it wasn't re-centered?

[steve B]

The numbers would have been transfers like the rest of the images. all put in place by hand.
The factory numbers were almost certainly intended to be internal marks only that would be cut off when the sheet was cut. It's not likely they paid much attention to the location.

[T206.org]

Thanks, Steve. I was actually going slightly off-topic though. My post was referencing the full factory designation, as-pictured:

[steve B]

I never noticed that.

Probably just a mistake by whoever setup the back the first time. I'm trying to figure out if there's some artistic reason, but if there is it's nothing that comes to mind right off, or something I just never learned.

[Pat R]

Bates is a new subject, I'm pretty sure it's a factory number which would bring the
total subjects confirmed with factory 30 numbers to 27.

Bates Factory 30.jpg

Bates Factory 30 back.jpg

[Jobu]

Bates is new!

Here is the updated list:

(All are factory 30 unless noted)

1. Ames (port) - Factory 25 and Factory 30
2. Bates
3. Beaumont
4. Clarke, Fred (port)
5. Clarke, JJ
6. Cobb (bat on)
7. Dahlen (Brooklyn)
8. Dooin
9. Durham
10. Gilbert
11. Griffith (port)
12. Hemphill
13. Johnson (port)
14. Jones, Fielder (port)
15. Keeler (with bat)
16. Killian (pitching)
17. Mathewson (port)
18. McGraw (port no cap)
19. Merkle (port)
20. Overall (port)
21. Seymour (batting)
22. Shipke
23. Spade
24. Steinfeldt (port)
25. Stovall
26. Tannehill ("L" on front-Chi.)
27. Wagner (bat left)

Other back marks:

1. Rhoades (loop on the right)
2. Owen (splash? on the bottom)

[brianp-beme]

As a reminder here is that Owen mystery mark on the bottom as is noted in the above list.

Brian

[Moose117]

Here's one up for sale...

FS - Mathewson Port w/ Huge Factory 30 at bottom
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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Jobu

Bates is new!

Here is the updated list:

(All are factory 30 unless noted)

1. Ames (port) - Factory 25 and Factory 30
2. Bates
3. Beaumont
4. Clarke, Fred (port)
5. Clarke, JJ
6. Cobb (bat on)
7. Dahlen (Brooklyn)
8. Dooin
9. Durham
10. Gilbert
11. Griffith (port)
12. Hemphill13.
    13. Herzog
    14. Johnson (port)
    15. Jones, Fielder (port)
    16. Keeler (with bat)
    17. Killian (pitching)
    18. Mathewson (port)
    19. McGraw (port no cap)
    20. Merkle (port)
    21. Overall (port)
    22. Seymour (batting)
    23. Shipke
    24. Spade
    25. Steinfeldt (port)
    26. Stovall
    27. Tannehill ("L" on front-Chi.)
    28. Wagner (bat left)

Other back marks:

1. Rhoades (loop on the right)
2. Owen (splash? on the bottom)

Here's another new one Herzog. I added it to the list, this makes 28 different subjects with the factory 30 now.

Herzog.jpg

Herzog Back.jpg

[Pat R]

Picked up a new one for my collection. This one has a bigger part of the number showing than any of the others I have.
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It is straighter and tilted slightly down to the right while most of the other examples are tilted down to the left like this one.

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[chriskim]

Wish i can see those pics on this thread. Many of them are broken images

[Pat R]

A new one #29 confirmed Schlei catching

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1. Ames (port) - Factory 25 and Factory 30
2. Bates
3. Beaumont
4. Clarke, Fred (port)
5. Clarke, JJ
6. Cobb (bat on)
7. Dahlen (Brooklyn)
8. Dooin
9. Durham
10. Gilbert
11. Griffith (port)
12. Hemphill
13. Herzog
14. Johnson (port)
15. Jones, Fielder (port)
16. Keeler (with bat)
17. Killian (pitching)
18. Mathewson (port)
19. McGraw (port no cap)
20. Merkle (port)
21. Overall (port)
22. Schlei (catching)
23. Seymour (batting)
24. Shipke
25. Spade
26. Steinfeldt (port)
27. Stovall (port)
28. Tannehill ("L" on front-Chi)
29. Wagner (bat on left)

[t206fix]

I was able to pick this Bres up recently - and I don't believe it appears on the list. It is also a 150 subject.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by t206fix

I was able to pick this Bres up recently - and I don't believe it appears on the list. It is also a 150 subject.

Nice pick up Tony. Bresnahan added to the list.

1. Ames (port) - Factory 25 and Factory 30
2. Bates
3. Beaumont
4. Bresnahan (port)
5. Clarke, Fred (port)
6. Clarke, JJ
7. Cobb (bat on)
8. Dahlen (Brooklyn)
9. Dooin
10. Durham
11. Gilbert
12. Griffith (port)
13. Hemphill
14. Herzog
15. Johnson (port)
16. Jones, Fielder (port)
17. Keeler (with bat)
18. Killian (pitching)
19. Mathewson (port)
20. McGraw (port no cap)
21. Merkle (port)
22. Overall (port)
23. Schlei (catching)
24. Seymour (batting)
25. Shipke
26. Spade
27. Steinfeldt (port)
28. Stovall (port)
29. Tannehill ("L" on front-Chi)
30. Wagner (bat on left)

[Pat R]

Another new subject added to the list. Terry Turner brings the total to 31 out of 134 print group 1 subjects that were printed with a SC350/30 back.

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1. Ames (port) - Factory 25 and Factory 30
2. Bates
3. Beaumont
4. Bresnahan (port)
5. Clarke, Fred (port)
6. Clarke, JJ
7. Cobb (bat on)
8. Dahlen (Brooklyn)
9. Dooin
10. Durham
11. Gilbert
12. Griffith (port)
13. Hemphill
14. Herzog
15. Johnson (port)
16. Jones, Fielder (port)
17. Keeler (with bat)
18. Killian (pitching)
19. Mathewson (port)
20. McGraw (port no cap)
21. Merkle (port)
22. Overall (port)
23. Schlei (catching)
24. Seymour (batting)
25. Shipke
26. Spade
27. Steinfeldt (port)
28. Stovall (port)
29. Turner
30. Tannehill ("L" on front-Chi)
31. Wagner (bat on left)

[Louisville_Hugger]

Not sure how to post pics, but just picked up a Doc Crandall port. with literally half of the “30” in tact at the bottom.

[Pat R]

Here's John's Crandall, it has the biggest sheet number that I've seen yet.
It brings the total confirmed factory sheet numbers to 32.

Crandall.jpg

Crandall back.jpg



1. Ames (port) - Factory 25 and Factory 30
2. Bates
3. Beaumont
4. Bresnahan (port)
5. Clarke, Fred (port)
6. Clarke, JJ
7. Cobb (bat on)
8. Crandall (no cap)
9. Dahlen (Brooklyn)
10. Dooin
11. Durham
12. Gilbert
13. Griffith (port)
14. Hemphill
15. Herzog
16. Johnson (port)
17. Jones, Fielder (port)
18. Keeler (with bat)
19. Killian (pitching)
20. Mathewson (port)
21. McGraw (port no cap)
22. Merkle (port)
23. Overall (port)
24. Schlei (catching)
25. Seymour (batting)
26. Shipke
27. Spade
28. Steinfeldt (port)
29. Stovall (port)
30. Turner
31. Tannehill ("L" on front-Chi)
32. Wagner (bat on left)
33. Young (bare hand)

[Louisville_Hugger]

Thank you Pat!