American Caramel E121 series of 80 survey revisited

[brianp-beme]

I thought it was just about time to dig up and combine a couple of threads I had posted last year and got good response from all you fellow collectors. It involves both cards listed in the SCD for this E121 series of 80 set which I believe may not exist, and cards that are listed for this set that might only exist with the back (first line ends in 'eighty') variation.

After collecting these cards for a while and watching when they come up for sale, I am convinced that some of the cards listed in the catalogs for the E121 Series of 80 set are either incredibly tough to come by or non-existent. I have come up with a list of cards in this set that I have not personally seen, and in the previous postings by fellow collectors, was not able to cross off the list. I would appreciate hearing back, either here or by email, from collectors on any they might have or have positively seen for sale. Keep in mind that most of the cards listed below are variations, so all the noted information about the card needs to be exact.

Cards that possibly do not exist in the E121 series of 80 set:

G.C. Alexander (arms above head)
Frank Baker (not J.Franklin Baker)
Ty Cobb (throwing, Face Front)
"Phil" Douglas (must have quotation marks)
Alexander Gaston (with position)
Alexander Gaston (no position)
Fred Schupp (not 'Ferd')
Pat Shea (no quotation marks)
Tris Speaker (batting-small projection)

The original list I created to verify the existence of certain E121 cards did not include any card that I only possessed an 'ends in Eighty' variation example. I thought I would list those cards now to see if any of you collectors out there can verify the existence of the normal back of each of the following listed below. My thinking is that we can verify some other tough, possibly 'ends in eighty' only cards. After previous input from collectors I have narrowed down the list to what is seen below, however I did add three cards to the list (Causey, Ryan and Earl Smith) because I realized I had left them off the original list and I suspect their existence in anything but the first line ends in 'eighty' variation.

E121 series of 80 cards that possibly are only available with first line ends in 'eighty' back variation:

Cecil Causey
"Rip" Collins
"Mike" Gonzalez
Harry Harper
M.J. McNally
R. Meusel
Elmer Miller
Jack Quinn
John Rawlings
Bill Ryan
"Slim" Sallee w/no ball
"Pat" Shea (must have " ")
Earl Smith

Your assistance will be greatly appreciated!


Brian