Another New T205 Variation

[marcdelpercio]

I have discovered another T205 variation. I have been tracking this card for several months and have not seen any other mention of this variation in the past. On the back of the John Miller card, the first line of text reads "John B. Miller, the young" on some cards and "John D. Miller, the young" on others. To this point, it seems the "John B." variation is slightly scarcer as I have only found it on Piedmont 25 and Polar Bear backs. Neither version is scarce overall as I have tracked numerous copies of each version. I have seen the "John D." variation on every other back (including some Piedmonts and Polar Bears as well).

This is unquestionably a variation as both versions appear on multiple backs as well as on the same (Piedmont and Polar Bear) backs. I am curious to know if anybody has the "John B." variation on any backs besides Piedmont 25 or Polar Bear.

[ethicsprof]

Congratulations on this discovery!!
I know that the thrill of this effort is most exhilarating.
Thanks for your ongoing scholarly efforts and contributions to the hobby.

all the best,
barry

[marcdelpercio]

Thanks for the kind words Barry. Honestly, I'm quite surprised that nobody has noticed this one before. Or maybe they have and just haven't brought it to light. Either way, it's always exciting to add another card to the checklist of a set, especially a major one such as this.

[asoriano]

[Steve D]

Nice find!

My question is this though.....

Do all Piedmont backed Millers have the "B" instead of the "D"?

This would be the same as the Mathewson stat error, where all the (I believe Hassan) backs have the error. If there are Piedmont Millers with a "D" and others with a "B", then I would think this is a major find. If, like the Matty, all Piedmont Millers have the "B", then, while still a nice catch, it wouldn't rise to the level of a major variation.

Steve

[FUBAR]

Nice find!! I never notice stuff like this... good work!

but it's no Joe Jackson at Third base!! j/k

[Steve D]

I think we have a "major" find here.

At least with Polar Bear, the card exists with both variations. I just looked on ebay, and found these two cards:



Steve

[marcdelpercio]

Originally Posted by Steve D

Nice find!

My question is this though.....

Do all Piedmont backed Millers have the "B" instead of the "D"?

This would be the same as the Mathewson stat error, where all the (I believe Hassan) backs have the error. If there are Piedmont Millers with a "D" and others with a "B", then I would think this is a major find. If, like the Matty, all Piedmont Millers have the "B", then, while still a nice catch, it wouldn't rise to the level of a major variation.

Steve

Steve,
There are Piedmont backed Millers with the "D". I have an SGC 50 Piedmont 42 back that has the "D". I have yet to find a Piedmont 25 back that has the "D". Also, both variations appear with the Polar Bear back as well. This is unlike the Mathewson Cycle and Doc White Polar Bear variations which only appear with one back (though I still consider those variations anyway...not to reopen that debate ).

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by marcdelpercio

I have yet to find a Piedmont 25 back that has the "D".

Marc,

My Piedmont 25 has the "D" back. I believe that I bought this one from you last year.

r/
Frank