The rarest..Brown OLD MILL/Factory #649 red overprint

[tedzan]

As rare as the Southern League Brown OLD MILL cards are, there is even a scarcer version. Shown here is a red overprinted Brown OLD MILL. If you recall,
in the current "Brown OLD MILL" thread, I speculated that Brown OLD MILL's are the result of printer's ERROR in applying BROWN ink that was used to print
a run of Brown HINDU Southern Leaguers (prior to a print run of OLD MILL Southern Leaguers).

I regard these red overprinted Brown OLD MILL's as further evidence of printer's scrap. At some point in 1909, ATC transferred their SWEET CAPORAL ciga-
rette production to their modern facility in Rochester, NY (Factory #649). Therefore, American Litho. had to overprint their SWEET CAP 150 (Factory 30)
stock with "Factory #649 1st Dist. N.Y."

These overprinted OLD MILL's are simply printer's "inking proofs". And, like the Brown OLD MILL's, these were never meant to be inserted in cigarette packs.

Incidently, has anyone noticed the very interesting coincidence of HINDU cigarettes being also produced at Factory #649 ?

No coincidence, I say....the various Factory's throughout ATC system would place orders with American Litho. (ALC) for 1000's of T206's. ALC would then
fill these orders on a large batch process, printing up all cards destined for that factory....in this case HINDU and SWEET CAPORAL.


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.................................................. .................................................. ......................Factory #649....1st Dist. N.Y.

I welcome any comments (pro or con) on this subject. And, you lucky ones that have any of these extremely rare Brown OLD MILL/Factory #649 overprints,
please share them with us ?

Thanks,

TED Z

[Jacklitsch]

I thought that there had been a thread outing these as forgeries having been created by a card doctor.

Originally Posted by Jacklitsch

I thought that there had been a thread outing these as forgeries having been created by a card doctor.

I thought that was for the Old Mill Black Bar Overprints.

This card is an error, or printers scrap.

[teetwoohsix]

It is interesting to see how on the Sweet Caporal the overprint "bar" is neatly placed under the "150 Subjects",but on the brown Old Mill it's just stamped on there with seemingly no regard to position.

What about what Steve said-does anyone have a link to that prior thread?

Great subject Ted,by the way.

Regards,Clayton

[ullmandds]

what andrew said...the black bar overprints were fakes made by the founder of the t206 museum if I remember correctly...

[canjond]

Patrick Chan I believe made the fakes and was caught after and FBI investigation

[Mikehealer]

Hi Ted,
Who's on the front of the card?

[tedzan]

Hey guys,

This "red line" on the Brown OLD MILL back is a legitimate American Litho. overprint....as is evident by the SWEET CAPORAL 150
Factory #649 overprint card, that I have displayed in my first post. There were 35 subjects selected from the T206's that were
modified with this overprint.

The fakes were done with BLACK ink.


TED Z