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Old 02-08-2013, 10:38 AM
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Default Bloomer girls and Smokey Joe Wood postcard

Hey guys (and girls),
I have a postcard I need some help with. I believe this is Smokey Joe on the far right, sitting. The back has a postmark of 1911 but I think the photo could be from a few years earlier. I know it probably isn't, but that guy sitting on the far left almost looks like Addie Joss? Thoughts.....? I can probably get a bigger scan if it's needed...
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Hey guys (and girls),
I have a postcard I need some help with. I believe this is Smokey Joe on the far right, sitting. The back has a postmark of 1911 but I think the photo could be from a few years earlier. I know it probably isn't, but that guy sitting on the far left almost looks like Addie Joss? Thoughts.....? I can probably get a bigger scan if it's needed...
I just read a Goodwin lot detail from 2010 that claims that Wood only played one month for the Western Bloomer Girls of St Augustine FL, in 1906. I do not know that is or isn't Joe in this picture, just saying....

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Wood said that he played for Galbreath's Bloomer team, so that, along with the fact that it looks like him in this card, is pretty compelling.
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Wood said that he played for Galbreath's Bloomer team, so that, along with the fact that it looks like him in this card, is pretty compelling.
Again, I know it's probably not him but doesn't that guy on the left resemble Addie Joss? Maybe it's just me, I am not that great on photo ID....
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He does have the same look (or lack thereof) in his eyes.

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He does have the same look (or lack thereof) in his eyes.

Wow. Addie Joss died 2 days after his 31st birthday. Man does he look rough. I never heard anything about him being a drinker, but he looks like Pete Alexander or a cowboy at age 50.
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Ballplayers played every game under the sun back then which is why I think they look so dang old back then...nowadays 75% of the games are night games. With that said Addie Joss looked more beaten down than the average prewar ballplayer in the last few years of his life.
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Not him. On the Glory Of Their Times audio, Wood says of the team he signed with, "This was not the Boston Bloomer Girls, but the Western Bloomer Girls out of Kansas City." Both teams were owned by Logan Galbreath. It also doesn't really look all that much like Joe Wood, either, IMO. But that other guy sure is a dead ringer for Addie Joss.
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Agreed with Hank on Wood.

I've always thought he looked like Joss too on that pc, but could find absolutely nothing on Joss' affiliation with any Bloomer teams.
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Not him. On the Glory Of Their Times audio, Wood says of the team he signed with, "This was not the Boston Bloomer Girls, but the Western Bloomer Girls out of Kansas City." Both teams were owned by Logan Galbreath. It also doesn't really look all that much like Joe Wood, either, IMO. But that other guy sure is a dead ringer for Addie Joss.
I would agree - on the enlargement, neither of the guys on the front row look too much like Wood.

I didn't realize that Galbreath owned both teams.
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The quality is not great - but seems just good enough to see that the ear is not right. That combined with no known connection to the team says that it isn't Joss.
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I only have a little vested interest, as the card will be in our next auction, and have to just disagree with ya'll. To me, they both look like Wood and Joss. We certainly don't want to sell anything that is not what it is purported to be so will make sure the description isn't definitive, unless someone comes up with some definitive proof. Given that Wood did play for the Bloomers I think there is a good chance it is him. I also think it looks like Joss too. Would love to get more opinions and am appreciative and respectful of those given so far.
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