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Old 09-07-2020, 07:52 AM
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Default Mike Baker Authenticated

I thought of this same concept years ago and knew it would be coming someday.

I know many of you won't like it, but I think another opinion certifying the grade is a great idea.

I don't really understand how the three levels silver, gold, and black work (only spent 10 seconds looking at the site).

I see MBA certified listed in auctions already and suspect these cards will get premium $.

If this was already discussed, feel free to ignore this post (didn't see anything in a search).

Other thoughts?
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Old 09-07-2020, 07:57 AM
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Double secret certification...

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Will he slab the slab?
God I can only hope so.
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Old 09-07-2020, 08:13 AM
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Default Slab the slab...

I know you said that jokingly, but when I thought of this same concept years ago, that was my vision.

I know you and many others are probably laughing, but many people (including me) display their cards. A premium slab that encapsulated SGC, BVG and PSA cases could display really nicely.

I guess now that I said that out loud (and typed it), it does sound a little silly but I've seen crazier ideas make a lot of money.
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Is this different than the other GAI guy with the Diamond stickers?

So now we have at least a fourth one after Purple Label and PWCC?
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CAC does this for graded coins with a hologram sticker

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I thought of this same concept years ago and knew it would be coming someday.

I know many of you won't like it, but I think another opinion certifying the grade is a great idea.

I don't really understand how the three levels silver, gold, and black work (only spent 10 seconds looking at the site).

I see MBA certified listed in auctions already and suspect these cards will get premium $.

If this was already discussed, feel free to ignore this post (didn't see anything in a search).

Other thoughts?

I guess a 2nd pair of eyes is good but it really shouldn't be needed if the TPGs do their jobs correctly. But not a bad idea as others are doing it, or have tried to do it, recently.
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I guess a 2nd pair of eyes is good but it really shouldn't be needed if the TPGs do their jobs correctly. But not a bad idea as others are doing it, or have tried to do it, recently.
I hear what you’re saying Leon. But remember, all of us make mistakes in our job. Luckily, most of the time they go unnoticed (unless you’re in the restaurant business where you’re expected to be perfect).

I am terrible at judging the quality of a card. I trust that TPGs would do a better job than I would and 99% of the time that’s true. I also like having another opinion.

What’s nice is if you don’t like it, ignore the MBA or even PSA/SGC/BGS label. The grade is a guide to get you started. The final review is up to the buyer.
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Remora (noun): Remora spend their lives clinging to a host animal such as a whale, turtle, shark or ray. Although it was initially believed that remoras fed off particulate matter from the host's meals, this has been shown to be false; in reality, their diets are composed primarily of host feces.

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Confused. Wasn't Mike Baker the one who graded trimmed cards for GAI?
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I believe so.
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Remora (noun): Remora spend their lives clinging to a host animal such as a whale, turtle, shark or ray. Although it was initially believed that remoras fed off particulate matter from the host's meals, this has been shown to be false; in reality, their diets are composed primarily of host feces.

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Adam, that is sort of a mean analogy. However, I love it!
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Despite all of the technical aids and cross-referencing employed by the TPGers, grading still remains the subjective final decision by the grader. Human nature will always play a role with the exception of Superman, Jesus and perhaps Karl Marx.
Travis, could you provide a scan of one of your PSA graded cards in your PC with a Baker good housekeeping seal of approval. I have never seen one and am curious after this cogent discussion on a polemic subject. Tks. John
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I hear what you’re saying Leon. But remember, all of us make mistakes in our job. Luckily, most of the time they go unnoticed (unless you’re in the restaurant business where you’re expected to be perfect).

I am terrible at judging the quality of a card. I trust that TPGs would do a better job than I would and 99% of the time that’s true. I also like having another opinion.

What’s nice is if you don’t like it, ignore the MBA or even PSA/SGC/BGS label. The grade is a guide to get you started. The final review is up to the buyer.
The restaurant part made me laugh. It's 2020... NO ONE is expected to be perfect, at, well... literally anything anymore. Anything less than sheer and utter incompetence is completely acceptable these days.

Case in point, since moving to Montreal, my expectations are now as low as possible. I can honestly say that my meals are screwed up at least 50% of the time when I order or go out here, and you get no sympathy from staff or management whatsoever.
If you complain, they act like you're the problem. It's pathetic...

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So many stickers....

Part of me wants to buy a really nice Nascar card and get as many of those new stickers as possible on the slab.
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Does anyone want to join me in the N54 AUTHENTICATION Super Service. We can call it N54 ASS. It will be a unique AUTHENTICATION TO THE AUTHENTICATION service.

We can come up with a really cool looking logo. The difference between the N54 ASS and the "other guys" is we will offer a certification number for the logo (for a nominal charge).

Who says we can't have 6 minute abs?

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Not sure if I'd go with a Baker auth. As others have mentioned, GAI was good to begin with, then the trimmed cards were being slabbed with numerical numbers. Step into my office... N54 ASS!
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So many stickers....

Part of me wants to buy a really nice Nascar card and get as many of those new stickers as possible on the slab.
I think you're on to something. If one sticker is good, wouldn't multiple stickers -- as many as possible -- be better?
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Love the idea. More sticker companies will pop up.

The only question is which ones will become the top dogs?
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A sticker on a slab that is further slabbed and stickered. It's turtles all the way down . . .
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Examples are starting to show up...


Y'all have fun with that...
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Y'all have fun with that...
Look at the bright side, he can't be worse than the others already doing it.
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Yes he can be worse. He was famous for slabbing trimmed cards for GAI until they were driven into the ground.
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A saying is "That a lot of people do it, doesn't make it any less stupid."
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