T205 Master List

[orioles70]

I checked my 291 T205's against the spreadsheet I was forwarded and I have 5 that were not checked off on that spreadsheet.

Duffy - Hindu back
Bergen - Piedmont factory 42
Miller - American Beauty green ink
Richie - Broad Leaf black ink
Wheat - Broad Leaf black ink

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[Steve L]

Wonderful to see the Duffy Hindu. Thank you for posting. Gives me hope that someday the Daubert Hindu will surface.

[GasHouseGang]

Thanks for posting those new additions to the verified list. After talking to you recently I was waiting to see them. Congratulations.

[T205 GB]

Beautiful cards. Thank you for sharing and I will get them updated.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by orioles70

I checked my 291 T205's against the spreadsheet I was forwarded and I have 5 that were not checked off on that spreadsheet.

Duffy - Hindu back
Bergen - Piedmont factory 42
Miller - American Beauty green ink
Richie - Broad Leaf black ink
Wheat - Broad Leaf black ink

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Can you provide an individual scan of the Miller AB Green Back. Need to verify what variation it is. Looks to be the D over B but want to make extra sure before adding to list. Thank you

[orioles70]

Tried to get as good a pic of the top back as I could

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[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by orioles70

Tried to get as good a pic of the top back as I could

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I can clearly see the B with the broken line but the typeset has yet to be modified on this card. I would call it a B variation but it is clearly a broken B. I know there are not a lot of AB's out there of Miller but maybe someone else could display the backs they have to get a representative sample. Then we can say whether or not a Broken B variation is a go or just throw it in with the B variation. I have attached a pic of a D over B Variation from a PB back. You can see the alteration clearly.

[gonzo]

Here's another Miller AB.

[cynicalbuddha1]

Andrew
New to the site and love the T205 master list, glad I found it. Noticed the Johnny Bates Sweet Caporal Red Factory 42 was not on the list. Here is an image.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by cynicalbuddha1

Andrew
New to the site and love the T205 master list, glad I found it. Noticed the Johnny Bates Sweet Caporal Red Factory 42 was not on the list. Here is an image.

I will add it once the pic shows up. Thank you

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

I will add it once the pic shows up. Thank you

? he posted a picture of the card.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Pat R

? he posted a picture of the card.

Unless the card is completely white on both sides, I don't see it either.

Brian

[GasHouseGang]

I can see the card posted. I think he linked it rather than posting it as a .jpg, which means in some applications you can't see it.
I am new to collecting T205s, so this may be a stupid question. But, the problem I'm having is a discrepancy with the Master Lists. I downloaded page one of the Master List zip file and it shows Sweet Caporal Red, Factory 25. But the Master List Excel file that I received from another Net54 member just lists Sweet Cap Red, without a factory designation.

The Excel T205 Master List sheet has these headings:
AB - BLACK
AB - GREEN
BL-BLACK
BL-GREEN
CYCLE
DRUM
HASSAN - 30
HASSAN - 649
HINDU
HONEST LC
PIEDMONT 25
PIEDMONT 42
POLAR BEAR
SOVEREIGN
SC- 25 BLACK
SC- 42 BLACK
SC- RED

But the T205 .pdf Master List sheet has these headings:
American Beauty Black
American Beauty Green
Broadleaf Black
Broadleaf Olive Green
Cycle
Drum
Hassan-Factory 30
Hassan-Factory 649
Hindu
Honest Long Cut
Piedmont-Factory 25
Piedmont-Factory 42
Polar Bear
Sovereign
Sweet Caporal Black-Factory 25
Sweet Caporal Black-Factory 42
Sweet Caporal Red-Factory 25

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Unless the card is completely white on both sides, I don't see it either.

Brian

That's funny it even shows up for me in the post Andrew quoted.

Here's a scan of another bates SC factory 42

Bates T205 SC 42.jpg

[Gradedcardman]

Andrew,

If you have a scan or picture of the PD 42 Bridwell I would like to see it. I was told by one of the 205 gurus that it was not a verified or possible card.

Thanks,
Adam

[GasHouseGang]

The point I was trying to make, is the T205 Master List Heading appears to have an error. The header is shown below. According to this article on T205 backs, the Sweet Cap Red Print only comes in Factory 42 but the header lists it as Factory 25.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

The point I was trying to make, is the T205 Master List Heading appears to have an error. The header is shown below. According to this article on T205 backs, the Sweet Cap Red Print only comes in Factory 42 but the header lists it as Factory 25.

Definitely they made a boo-boo. The Sweet Caporal Red only comes with Factory 42 designation.

Brian

[GasHouseGang]

Thank you Brian.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Definitely they made a boo-boo. The Sweet Caporal Red only comes with Factory 42 designation.

Brian

Looks to me that the heading was incorrect for the SC Red. I need to make a few changes and then repost master list. Was having issues getting the last change to format in a zip so i could upload.

[Gradedcardman]

Originally Posted by Gradedcardman

Andrew,

If you have a scan or picture of the PD 42 Bridwell I would like to see it. I was told by one of the 205 gurus that it was not a verified or possible card.

Thanks,
Adam

Andrew,

Do you have a scan or pic of this Bridwell PD 42 ?

[cynicalbuddha1]

Please add Tom Downey's Sweet Caporal Red Factory 42 to the master list.
downey SC Red 42 f.jpg

downey SC Red 42 b.jpg

[cynicalbuddha1]

Please add Larry Doyles Honest Long Cut and American Beauty Green to the master listdoyle AB Green ft.jpg

doyle AB Green b.jpg

doyle honest f.jpg

doyle honest b.jpg

[Gradedcardman]

I guess I will start a "reward" for a scan of the Bridwell Piedmont 42.

$50 paypal F&F for a picture or scan. Maybe for now it should be eliminated from the confirmed list ?

[T205 GB]

Lots of new additions.Thank you guys.

Adam I have no issue removing a card from the list. Would love to know why you think it’s impossible, as you claim, for it to not have a pied 42 back. You offered no plausible explanation other than someone else said so. I can say nothing on this list has not been verified in person or via scan. I can offer up the idea of marking incorrectly as being plausible too.

[cynicalbuddha1]

Please correct the listing for Frank Schulte American Beauty back from Black to Green. I've attached a scan of the back along side a black back for comparision.
schulte AB Green back.jpg

[gonzo]

I also collect T205 Piedmont 42s, and I believe that Bridwell doesn't come with that back.

I think this is true (though I would be thrilled to see counterexamples!):

If a T205 card comes with an American Beauty Black back
and it comes with a Hassan 649 back
then it will not come with a Piedmont 42 back.

Some cards that I've seen with AB Black and Hassan 649, but not with a Pied 42, include (among others):
Jimmy Austin
John Bates
Beals Becker
George Bell
Russ Blackburne
Al Bridwell
Mordecai Brown
Hal Chase
...etc.

Cards that I've seen with AB Black and Pied 42, but not Hassan 649:
Bill Bergen
Tom Downey
Dick Hoblitzell
Miller Huggins
Pat Moran
Ed Phelps
Zach Wheat

[T205 GB]

List has been updated as of 4/8/22. Please post any new additions or changes that need to be made. Zip file is attached to first post in thread as well as below.

Again thank you all for the support and help with this list.