Hey, pennant guys

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Wow- those are all amazing and SO rare. I especially love the '39 World Series Pennant from Lelands. You never see that one, and the graphics are off the charts.

Congrats on that incredible haul

Agreed!

[ooo-ribay]

There's a good one on ebay, right now....

[Teamgluck]

There are a few good ones on eBay right now. The Lajoie Cleveland Naps Pennant sold for about $3700 yesterday.

Pennant market coming back?

[ricardoh]

Originally Posted by matty39

I recently obtained my ninth premium. There are ten known, leaving only the Cobb to complete the set. I am aware of two Cobbs; one posted on the forum several years ago which is shown below. The second sold in the Halper auction. I am not hopeful of ever obtaining a Cobb but am excited to get my ninth.

these are fantastic! I've seen only one in person but it was many years ago and before I was a serious buyer of very expensive ones. totally stunning!!!

[lefty147]

The Lajoie Cleveland Naps Pennant was incredible.

[ooo-ribay]

Wow.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/252445191041

Rare c1915 John McGraw NY Giants Wool Felt Pennant - Large - 10 1/2" x 29" - NR

[ooo-ribay]

Seems like someone told me thay were looking for this pennant....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/201649346866

[bocca001]

That was me, Rob. Thanks!

Marc

[Buythatcard]

Here's one from the old WFL.

[FourStrikes]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

Here's one from the old WFL.

Howard / others:

I'm neither a pennant nor WFL guy so I'm not overly familiar with what's out there but I cannot recall ever seeing a pennant - or anything - with "BELLS" printed.

as mentioned, not my area of expertise, but I'm only familiar with Philadelphia "BELL" items.

good looking piece either way, perhaps there's a handful of printing screw-ups out there that never made it to the
souvenir stands.

DS

[Buythatcard]

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

Howard / others:

I'm neither a pennant nor WFL guy so I'm not overly familiar with what's out there but I cannot recall ever seeing a pennant - or anything - with "BELLS" printed.

as mentioned, not my area of expertise, but I'm only familiar with Philadelphia "BELL" items.

good looking piece either way, perhaps there's a handful of printing screw-ups out there that never made it to the
souvenir stands.

DS

DS,

I picked this up last week as part of a larger lot of Sports memorabilia. I never heard of this team before. I looked it up to see who they were and didn't realize until you mentioned it that there were no references to "Bells" as the team name. Perhaps someone on this forum knows more about this.

[murphusa]

Street vendor knock off. Not an official pennant. The official ones are same style but spelled "BELL" also has a WFL copyright logo and comes in yellow or orange

[RichardSimon]

Just got these.

[FourStrikes]

well, Richard...those sure suck

nice pick-up.

[perezfan]

Great stuff Richard! Looking forward to remaining pricing on the BST post!

I'll keep this thread going with a few that I don't think I've posted. They now have a new space, so a few of these may have been shown way back when...

1. Cubs
2. Various Oversized
3. Reds
4. Assorted World Series

[perezfan]

Few more....

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Few more....

Wow! I've gotta think you have the world's best collection of pre-1940s pennants.

[MK]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Wow! I've gotta think you have the world's best collection of pre-1940s pennants.

I agree Mark's collection is second to none. Not only is there a large number of great pennants, but the condition is amazing.

[vintagesportscollector]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Wow! I've gotta think you have the world's best collection of pre-1940s pennants.

++1

[FourStrikes]

Mark:

bee-yootiful pennants as always, but that framed Wrigley's ad (which kinda disappears when shown in your post)
is outstanding as well...nice stuff.

DS

[ksfarmboy]

Awesome display Mark! That vertical blue Cubs pennant is my favorite.

[icollectDCsports]

Those are fantastic! Love the Paige pennant.

[Bumpus Jones]

Awesome...

[Mark70Z]

Those pennants and the displays you have going are extremely nice. Thanks so much for the pictures to view; appreciate it...

[jsage]

Great stuff Mark.
Thought I would post some of mine.
Players Pennants
1947 All Star Game
1949 All star game
Jerry Sage

[mjkm90]

Originally Posted by jsage

Great stuff Mark.
Thought I would post some of mine.
Players Pennants
1947 All Star Game
1949 All star game
Jerry Sage

All beautiful but that 47 all star is AMAZING. I have never seen another.

[ooo-ribay]

Don't be bummed, Mark, but I prefer what Jerry does with his matting.

[aelefson]

Incredible collection Mark! I am always hoping to find a ratty oversized teens era pennant at a flea market for very little money (I can always hope). This is a fairly recent antique shop pick up. Has anyone seen this before? I checked Google and only found the Connie Mack ring leader pennant that looks similar, although mine is smaller and does not have Mack's name. Could this have been issued after Mack's passing?

Alan

[jsage]

Originally Posted by mjkm90

All beautiful but that 47 all star is AMAZING. I have never seen another.

Mike -
Appreciate your comments.
Especially coming from a member like you that has has a FANTASTIC collection.
Jerry

[jsage]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Don't be bummed, Mark, but I prefer what Jerry does with his matting.

Rob -
Thanks - It is just a matter of what catches the eye.
Mark's presentation has a great "floating look" that captures lightness of the pennants. Mine is just a little more structured.
Jerry
Monday night - LA vs SF - Kersh vs Madbum........................

[jsage]

Originally Posted by mjkm90

All beautiful but that 47 all star is AMAZING. I have never seen another.

Mike -
Just checked the Vintage Pennant Guide reference book.
There is one on page 10.
Jerry

[perezfan]

Thanks to the members above who made such nice comments

Actually, I believe the '49 All Star Pennant is the rarer of the two. Both are scarce, but that '49 circular design is never seen. I've seen only one other, that was offered by Hunt Auctions. So if Jerry's example came from Hunt's, then that is the lone one.

Rob:
FWIW, I also admire Jerry's impeccable framing and presentation style (and actually prefer his to mine as well!) Nobody does it better than Jerry, and Board Members like "Mike H", "Scott G" and "Jester", just to name a few.

The reasons I do mine the way I do is three-fold...

1. I don't like to hand the pennants over to a third party Framer. Just my own OCD affliction... would much rather do the framing myself.

2. Double-matting them that way requires an adhesive (tape or glue) or using a micro-thin "fishing line". Something to hold the pennant firmly against the back mat. Even though experienced framers can do this virtually invisibly, I can't bring myself to tape the reverse or stitch through the actual pennant.

3. Cost.... By doing it all myself (with sectional frame components) I save at least $120 per pennant on framing. 50 framed pennants X $120 is over $6,000 I've saved in framing cost... that's more disposable money for pennants!

Alan:
Unfortunately, that A's Pennant is a Mitchell & Ness Repro

[jsage]

One more hard to find pennant - 1955 World Series

Pennant was found in an attic back east. Leaky roof - rain caused the dis-coloration but no holes, tears etc.
I used Mark's framing technique for this one.
Jerry Sage

[ooo-ribay]

^^^^ That is one cool pennant! Is the fringe on the right end "faux"? Are other pennants known in this same style? Too bad about the discoloration.

[jsage]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

^^^^ That is one cool pennant! Is the fringe on the right end "faux"? Are other pennants known in this same style? Too bad about the discoloration.

Rob -
Not sure what you mean by by "faux". It is all in tact and 100% original.
I have seen a few of these 1955 WS pennants in the past.
Jerry

[aelefson]

Thanks Mark! It is good to know. I having been having a run of extremely good luck lately so I am bound to have some duds. Luckily, it only cost 25.00 and my recent Brimfield finds easily pay for that.

Alan

[perezfan]

Good to hear.... Even at $25, it wasn't a bad buy. I think these retail for around $35 - $40. And this is a tougher variation for them.

Eventually, you will come into a few vintage gems. Please be sure to post them when you do!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by jsage

Rob -
Not sure what you mean by by "faux". It is all in tact and 100% original.
I have seen a few of these 1955 WS pennants in the past.
Jerry

By "faux" I meant is it real fringe on the right end or painted on?

[perezfan]

It's both actually! The fringe along the spine is real. The "fringe" at the tip is faux (painted on). Very unusual and desirable variation.

[perezfan]

Here's one of the very few others (image formerly from Mike H) that has a fringe, rather than tassels. Must've been a short-lived New York thing

[jsage]

Originally Posted by perezfan

It's both actually! The fringe along the spine is real. The "fringe" at the tip is faux (painted on). Very unusual and desirable variation.

Mark - Thanks for "faux fringe" clarification.
Jerry

PS - I like the graphic used on both of our pennants showing the fans entering Yankee Stadium.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Another couple of "fringe" versions although the 1955 World Series is the clear favorite and extremely collectible. I've had one or two others just like this, but they are very tough.

[thetahat]

Interesting pennants in recent live auction .... large (40") Cubs and Tigers pennants from early 20th century, same style, with two color felt, reinforced edges, and an embroidered leather logo/design with details apparently burned (?) the leather. Tigers pennant is fantastic and I wanted it but got pretty high ... I actually have the Cubs but with the gold and purple colors inverted.

I wonder if this is the oldest known "series" of pennants ..... I've seen Cubs, White Sox, Tigers, and I think Red Sox? Clearly they were all made by the same company or person. And I am guessing they pre-date silk screening, around 1910. The leather (and added accents) seems to serve the purpose of providing details that embroidered felt (as in other old, non-screened pennants) could not achieve.

Anyway, doubt we can solve this mystery but I find myself intrigued by them ... any help?

http://huntauctions.com/live/imagevi...=219&lot_qual=

[thetahat]

Here is a grainy photo of a red version of that WS pennant

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Interesting pennants in recent live auction .... large (40") Cubs and Tigers pennants from early 20th century, same style, with two color felt, reinforced edges, and an embroidered leather logo/design with details apparently burned (?) the leather. Tigers pennant is fantastic and I wanted it but got pretty high ... I actually have the Cubs but with the gold and purple colors inverted.

I wonder if this is the oldest known "series" of pennants ..... I've seen Cubs, White Sox, Tigers, and I think Red Sox? Clearly they were all made by the same company or person. And I am guessing they pre-date silk screening, around 1910. The leather (and added accents) seems to serve the purpose of providing details that embroidered felt (as in other old, non-screened pennants) could not achieve.

Anyway, doubt we can solve this mystery but I find myself intrigued by them ... any help?

http://huntauctions.com/live/imagevi...=219&lot_qual=

What did the Tigers go for? &1100 doesn't seem bad for the Cubs. Maybe the somewhat generic nature held it back?

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Here is a grainy photo of a red version of that WS pennant

I like that 42 yanks pennant you have. Did you pick that up at the Balitmore national? I missed this one there

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

What did the Tigers go for? &1100 doesn't seem bad for the Cubs. Maybe the somewhat generic nature held it back?

I think the Cubs went low because of the following...

1. Another one surfaced not long ago

2. Not quite as attractive as some other oversized versions (just my opinion)

3. Numerous moth holes scattered throughout the body of the pennant.

The similar Tigers version was more attractive, and was significantly better in terms of condition.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

I like that 42 yanks pennant you have. Did you pick that up at the Balitmore national? I missed this one there

No, I bought that maybe 10 years ago ... I think ebay, but not certain.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I think the Cubs went low because of the following...

1. Another one surfaced not long ago

2. Not quite as attractive as some other oversized versions (just my opinion)

3. Numerous moth holes scattered throughout the body of the pennant.

The similar Tigers version was more attractive, and was significantly better in terms of condition.

I think I won the other one to which you refer, it was an eBay auction. I think the moth holes were most responsible. Or so I hope!

[mjkm90]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I think the Cubs went low because of the following...

1. Another one surfaced not long ago

2. Not quite as attractive as some other oversized versions (just my opinion)

3. Numerous moth holes scattered throughout the body of the pennant.

The similar Tigers version was more attractive, and was significantly better in terms of condition.

Agree on all points Mark. I personally didnt find the color scheme very attractive or at all relevant to the Cubs. At that price point I want to be in love with every element of a pennant.