Hey, pennant guys

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector

Thanks Rob. I am aware of Americana Memories, as they have a large on-line presence and on Etsy too. I didn't realize either they have an actual store. That would be cool to visit if I find myself in the area someday - like you said, they have some very healthy prices!

BTW, looking at the picture you sent, I am not a fan of seeing pennants sitting out in the sun like that. I've seen how the older pennants can fade considerably over time, if exposed to sun.

Yeah...When I saw the picture I was even more blown away that he had pennants sitting outside his store. I had to see where that was. Couldn't do that in Houston. Branford is a relatively wealthy community down on the CT shoreline. Not much in the way of crime there. Finding people with money won't be difficult, but enough pennant collectors to keep a store open?

[vintagesportscollector]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Yeah...When I saw the picture I was even more blown away that he had pennants sitting outside his store. I had to see where that was. Couldn't do that in Houston. Branford is a relatively wealthy community down on the CT shoreline. Not much in the way of crime there. Finding people with money won't be difficult, but enough pennant collectors to keep a store open?

yeah...kinda reminded me a little bit of the old "National Pastime" store in Cooperstown..ever seen that? A lot of museum quality stuff, but not sure much of it ever sold.

[vintagesportscollector]

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector

......Given the extensive amount of smoking that took place then, it would be very quick and easy for a student to amass 25 coupons.

Here's a piece on one of the typical smokers that happened at Cornell (there were many throughout the year), where 1,200 cans of tobacco and 30,000 Fatima cigarettes were donated by the American Tobacco Company - they had their hooks into all these students.

Thought I would share one of the elaborate pipes given out to students at a 1902 Sophomore Smoker, for those interested. This isn't mine but belongs to a friend of mine.

[bocca001]

Something about the red tassels made me buy it

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Something about the red tassels made me buy it

I LOVE pennants like that (with non-matching tassels). Awesome contrast, and seems like this 3/4 style of pennant had its heyday in the late '40s - early '50s.

Nice pickup Marc!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Something about the red tassels made me buy it

Much more vibrant than my example, even after dyeing, and I see what you mean about the red tassels.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Marc,
I like these pennants a lot. I think they’re under appreciated because with the Yankees, Dodgers, and Giants they were common from the 1930’s up to the 50’s as they were undated. Despite being undated, I still like them. I like the graphics and the colors. I personally collect Yankees so there’s lots of different nuances over the years. Nice pick up.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Something about the red tassels made me buy it

You should give this one a prominent position around the Christmas tree each December. Would also look great in one of the many Mexican restaurants in our area.

Sorry...Just kidding. My wife is Mexican and I'm sensitive to red white and green ever since she hung up red, white and green Christmas lights outside and our neighbors told us it looked like a Mexican restaurant opened in the neighborhood. Now we just do red and green.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I LOVE pennants like that (with non-matching tassels). Awesome contrast, and seems like this 3/4 style of pennant had its heyday in the late '40s - early '50s.

Nice pickup Marc!

Very nice. This seems to be that mystery NYC area company with the very unique spine material. So hard to find one with no fading.

[bocca001]

Thanks, guys. The Giants pennant is in really nice shape. I'm glad to have it.

I also picked up the 49ers pennant on the bottom, from Fballguy. I thought it was the same color (but better condition) as my other one, but I think that maybe it is a different color, which is nice.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

You should give this one a prominent position around the Christmas tree each December. Would also look great in one of the many Mexican restaurants in our area.

Sorry...Just kidding. My wife is Mexican and I'm sensitive to red white and green ever since she hung up red, white and green Christmas lights outside and our neighbors told us it looked like a Mexican restaurant opened in the neighborhood. Now we just do red and green.

El Tri!

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

El Tri!

There is actually an El Tri restaurant in Marc's town.

[thetahat]

Did anyone see the St. Louis Federal League pennant on eBay a few weeks ago? Had opening bid of $3K and BIN for $6K. Went unsold. Offered him a lot less but still a good chunk and he relisted and accepted. And that was the last I heard from him. eBay did resolve this with their guarantee so that’s good, but unfortunately there is some guy out there who literally stole money … unless eBay somehow got it back from him.

Anyone see this?

[MK]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Did anyone see the St. Louis Federal League pennant on eBay a few weeks ago? Had opening bid of $3K and BIN for $6K. Went unsold. Offered him a lot less but still a good chunk and he relisted and accepted. And that was the last I heard from him. eBay did resolve this with their guarantee so that’s good, but unfortunately there is some guy out there who literally stole money … unless eBay somehow got it back from him.

Anyone see this?

This one?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by MK

This one?

Yep that one

[ooo-ribay]

To tell you the truth, Greg, I think you dodged a bullet…that Feds pennant has very little of what JR likes to call “eye appeal.” That’s my opinion

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

To tell you the truth, Greg, I think you dodged a bullet…that Feds pennant has very little of what JR likes to call “eye appeal.” That’s my opinion

Eye appeal is the only thing that matters about a pennant. If it doesn't have that, what does it have?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

To tell you the truth, Greg, I think you dodged a bullet…that Feds pennant has very little of what JR likes to call “eye appeal.” That’s my opinion

Yeah I hear ya. I mainly collect to display, but I always wanted a Federal League pennant which usually go for a lot more. Way more. Of course they are also much more pleasing aesthetically. So yeah I’m good either way. I’m a little disgusted that it led to me sitting out a Huggins auction for a 1910s Phillies which ended up going much lower than expected.

[Domer05]

Picked up this ca. 1962-65 Los Angeles Angels "Chavez Ravine" stadium pennant by Trench, last month. It features the exact same ballpark artwork used for its Los Angeles Dodgers "Dodger Stadium" companion from the same era; with the addition of an angelic mascot.

[perezfan]

Awesome pickup Kyle! That one is surprisingly tough, and very cool image, IMHO. It just screams '60s.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Picked up this ca. 1962-65 Los Angeles Angels "Chavez Ravine" stadium pennant by Trench, last month. It features the exact same ballpark artwork used for its Los Angeles Dodgers "Dodger Stadium" companion from the same era; with the addition of an angelic mascot.

A great pennant for sure. Love the Angel graphic. Like Mark says it has that cool 1960s style cartoon art (similar to the Twins and Vikings “Grain Belt” pennants.

[UKCardGuy]

That Angels pennant is very nice. IMO, the eye appeal on the Angels pennants is generally better than most clubs.

I had this one arrive in the mail yesterday. I only have a couple of football pennants but the price was right (despite a few holes near the tip.

[rlevy]

Seems like a slow news day here on the pennant thread so thought I would post the following. I've been speaking to the curator for the Jackie Robinson Museum in New York about loaning them some items from my collection, and decided to loan them the pennant below (I've posted a photo of this pennant before) for display alongside other Jackie Robinson barnstorming items they have. They will probably borrow other items from my collection when they next rotate their displays. I've loaned out Koufax items before to some museums as well as to Dodger Stadium, but this is my first time loaning out anything Jackie. I'm hoping to get to see the museum when I go to NY for a wedding in July.

Rick

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[UKCardGuy]

That's one heck of a beautiful pennant. Please post pictures of the museum, if you can, when you visit.

[Chstrite]

Hi. Looking for Baseball All Star Pennants

Years needed:

1960
1961
1962
1963 with Brooks Robinson name
1964 with Brooks Robinson name
1967 with Brooks Robinson name
1968 with Brooks Robinson name
1969 with Brooks Robinson name
1973 with Brooks Robinson name
1974 with Brooks Robinson name

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Seems like a slow news day here on the pennant thread so thought I would post the following. I've been speaking to the curator for the Jackie Robinson Museum in New York about loaning them some items from my collection, and decided to loan them the pennant below (I've posted a photo of this pennant before) for display alongside other Jackie Robinson barnstorming items they have. They will probably borrow other items from my collection when they next rotate their displays. I've loaned out Koufax items before to some museums as well as to Dodger Stadium, but this is my first time loaning out anything Jackie. I'm hoping to get to see the museum when I go to NY for a wedding in July.

Rick

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You’re definitely the guy to go to for museum quality Dodgers stuff!

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

That's one heck of a beautiful pennant. Please post pictures of the museum, if you can, when you visit.

Will do. I plan on asking for a photo of the display just in case I don't make it there.

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

You’re definitely the guy to go to for museum quality Dodgers stuff!

Rob, a lot of guys have me beat by a mile, and Gary Cypres' Dodger collection is so large that he has his own museum with thousands of square feet dedicated to the Dodgers. But I do have some unique items, and I get a kick out of seeing them on display somewhere other than my own home.

Rick

[bocca001]

Here are two recent pickups.

This is now my third different version of this Santa Clara pennant (they differ in font, material, color). I have seen each version only once in 20+ years, so I'm glad to get it. This one is cloth.

Does anyone know if the W mark is the same company as the one that used the WC mark on other west coast pennants? (West Coast Novelty... I think). Or maybe that really is not a W? (between the Bronco and spine)

The second is an Adflag NY Giants pennant that doesn't usually come with as much color, so I decided to add it to the collection even with the nip at the top of the spine.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Here are two recent pickups.

This is now my third different version of this Santa Clara pennant (they differ in font, material, color). I have seen each version only once in 20+ years, so I'm glad to get it. This one is cloth.

Does anyone know if the W mark is the same company as the one that used the WC mark on other west coast pennants? (West Coast Novelty... I think). Or maybe that really is not a W? (between the Bronco and spine)

The second is an Adflag NY Giants pennant that doesn't usually come with as much color, so I decided to add it to the collection even with the nip at the top of the spine.

SC pennant is beautiful, Marc!!!

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Here are two recent pickups.

Does anyone know if the W mark is the same company as the one that used the WC mark on other west coast pennants? (West Coast Novelty... I think). Or maybe that really is not a W? (between the Bronco and spine)

Marc, I don't believe your "W" is a mark at all. I believe the artist is trying to illustrate the movement of your bronco, is all.

The "WC" mark we once discussed was a concessionaire's mark for West Coast Novelty, and although the mark differed in appearances from pennant to pennant, in all cases the "W" and "C" were very clear.

[ooo-ribay]

Love the SC pennant, Marc! I kinda agree with Kyle on the “W”….and kinda don’t

[bocca001]

The W must be shock waves from his abs flexing.

[perezfan]

The "W" is just lines of motion, like the two white lines directly above, and the three white lines beneath his back left leg. Cool pennant!

[thetahat]

Super jazzed about the acquisition from “pennantdynasty” who is an awesome eBay seller. Been looking for this forever. Strangely this seems rarer than the sister Brooklyn pennant. I’ve only seen it once before. There may be a version without the year. Anyway I’m also happy with the condition. Right up on the wall it goes. Interesting how the manager is listed differently.

[ooo-ribay]

Great pennant, Greg!

I agree….pennantdynasty is a great seller.

[erikc21]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Great pennant, Greg!

I agree….pennantdynasty is a great seller.

Greg and Marc - both great recent pickups!

Pennantdynasty is great - would love to see his collection and full inventory!

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Great pennant, Greg!

I agree….pennantdynasty is a great seller.

+1 agree great collection and selection

[ooo-ribay]

Just saw this on ebay. Canteen Corp.? Maker or concessionaire?

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Just saw this on ebay. Canteen Corp.? Maker or concessionaire?

Canteen = concessionaire. And, for the most part, I've only seen their marks on Trench-made pennants. But this one doesn't really scream Trench to me ... so perhaps someone else made it?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Canteen = concessionaire. And, for the most part, I've only seen their marks on Trench-made pennants. But this one doesn't really scream Trench to me ... so perhaps someone else made it?

I knew we could count on you, Kyle. JR had this listed as “first year Texas Rangers” 1972.

Are we getting closer to new content on your blog? :fingers_crossed:

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Canteen = concessionaire. And, for the most part, I've only seen their marks on Trench-made pennants. But this one doesn't really scream Trench to me ... so perhaps someone else made it?

Not sure I've seen Canteen Corp on a baseball pennant before. Mainly football helmet pennants. Anyone seen others?

[Domer05]

If the pennant was truly made ca. 1972 and for the AL Texas Rangers, and by a company like Trench, then I'd expect to see an MLB logo on it indicating that the product was officially licensed; as you'd expect to find on other Trench (or ASCO) pennants made post-1969.

Maybe this was was made in 1971 or earlier, when the Dallas-Ft. Worth-Arlington area was trying to lure an existing franchise their way? That might explain why it wasn't an officially sanctioned pennant by MLB.

It almost resembles more of a 1950s or 60s-era look, doesn't it?

[thetahat]

Anyone get that oversized Pirates pennant? (Top one, below, went for about a grand on eBay.) I’m intrigued by these, have written about them before. I’ve seen three different Pirates versions now. Could it be the first pennant “series”?

[perezfan]

I was the runner-up. I had a half-ass snipe (just below $1K) simply because I could not be positive it's actually a Pirates Pennant. It could easily (and perhaps more likely) be a Pittsburgh Univerity Pennant...

I like yours, Greg, because it says "Pirates" instead of Pittsburgh. Also, yours appears to be black and gold (not blue and gold). The Pirates never used blue as one of their colors, and were always black and gold. The University of Pittsburgh (Pitt) on the other hand, traditionally has blue and gold colors (just like the eBay pennant).

So why would they make one that says "Pirates" and another that says "Pittsburgh"? There's a similar example from this same series... One says "Cubs" and the other says "Chicago". The "Chicago" version has maroon and white felt, just like Chicago University. All of this makes me doubt whether the eBay example was truly a Pirates Pennant. So in retrospect, I'm kinda glad I was the under-bidder.

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[thetahat]

That Chicago pennant is in a Hunt auction right now. Last year it didn’t sell, was advertised as either U of Chicago or Sox or Cubs. This time around, no mention of possible team, and it’s getting bids.

I still gotta believe it’s a Pirate pennant. But the little bit of doubt does detract. The other Pittsburgh pennant went for $1900 and change in Heritage.

The Tigers leather tiger head pennant is still the Holy Grail ..

[ooo-ribay]

Good stuff, Heavy Hitters!

[UKCardGuy]

Love those Pirates pennants.

Did anyone see this one from CleanSweep's April auction? I wasn't sure what to think about it. Anybody here pick it up?

https://www.cleansweepauctions.com/i...tem=0000740349


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G@ry G0ldb3rg

[bocca001]

Ok, I'm just going to ask because I can't stop myself for thinking it, but have any of these pennants you guys are showing (with the leather) ever shown up in beat to hell condition? They all seem really nice. Almost new. Which seems.... uncomfortable.

I do know that leather stuff can survive well. As an example, the Santa Clara pennant below in looks like new condition. But I also have one that shows some age. I guess I'd expect to see more of these of the baseball pennants.

I don't watch these pennant closely when they come up for sale, so admit that I am no expert.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Ok, I'm just going to ask because I can't stop myself for thinking it, but have any of these pennants you guys are showing (with the leather) ever shown up in beat to hell condition? They all seem really nice. Almost new. Which seems.... uncomfortable.

I do know that leather stuff can survive well. As an example, the Santa Clara pennant below in looks like new condition. But I also have one that shows some age. I guess I'd expect to see more of these of the baseball pennants.

I don't watch these pennant closely when they come up for sale, so admit that I am no expert.

Though they don't surface often, I've seen plenty of beat-up examples over the years. I usually pass on them because I'm a condition freak. But I have seen (and owned) examples that are moth-eaten, stained, soiled, torn, missing felt, and have holes, slits, etc. I've also seen a few where the embroidered leather has peeled off and either remains loose or has been glued back on to the felt.

You can easily tell the difference between a vintage example and a reproduction when you have them in-hand. And great Santa Clara Pennants, BTW!

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Love those Pirates pennants.

Did anyone see this one from CleanSweep's April auction? I wasn't sure what to think about it. Anybody here pick it up?

https://www.cleansweepauctions.com/i...tem=0000740349


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G@ry G0ldb3rg

Oh man … I wish it was me … and what a bargain!