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Old 07-21-2009, 08:58 PM
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People say there are 4 main grading companies. I can only think of one and that is SGC. PSA is good but can't ever get a cross over from them to work so that means they may have overgraded the card. Beckett, well never. GAI is goo and all but can't sell it for what it's worth. And then there is SGC. We all know them and they are reat even though they make mistakes they are always on the ball and fair with grading.

Here is a link to an Ebay member selling a T205 Dolly Gray No Stats in a Beckett 5 grade. I was thinking it was a .5 but it really is slabbed as a 5. I wish this guy worked at SGC and got all my cards

http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-T205-GOLD-B...3A1%7C294%3A50

Flash 617 is the user ID. I would like to hear your thoughs on this. Its as bad as the book I found published in 1960 and autoed by Ruth and Berra.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:05 PM
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accurately graded: poor or better.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:12 PM
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Boy Jeff, you've got good eyes. I strained to read what was under the 5.

Yep, accurately graded "poor or better". But what's with the 5?
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:23 PM
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That is the difference between BCCG and BVG. Both are owned by Beckett, but BCCG goes from 5 to 10 instead of the 1 to 10 that we all know. It was developed for one of the shop from home TV stations in order to bump up the numbers on the cards they sold to unsuspecting buyers. In other words, a BCCG 10 is not a BVG 10, a BCCG 5 is akin to BVG 1 "or better"
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:27 PM
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Something fishy here. Beckett 5 is an Excellent. I don't know if they grade cards at point five; maybe Mark Gehrigfan can weigh in. Seller should know better. I was impressed with the Beckett crew at the Chicago National; just like SGC they have an Avis We Try Harder spirit and I think they will gain a respectable place in the vintage side of things. Their holders will stop a bullet, too.

Beckett grading scale: http://www.beckett.com/estore/helpsy...?ArticleId=257

Edited after reading Brian's post: Wasn't aware of the distinction between BCCG and BVG; that's kinda stinky.
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I think we had a some outrage over this when it first surfaced a few months ago - Beckett started a second grading system - I don't recall the name exactly; something like 'Collector Grading,' wherein the grading scale as we know it is completely shot and what you see there is a 5. No doubt confusing and bad for the hobby IMO.

As far as grading company accuracy, I think Beckett's normal BVG grading is up there with SGC, although I don't find their slabs nearly as attractive.
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BCCG (Beckett Collector's Club Grading) has been around for a number of years. For those who care...http://www.beckett.com/bccg/about_bccg.asp
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