SMR on E94 Close Candy

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Posted By: WP

Has any one here ever looked at the online SMR for this issue? Check out the Byrne, Doolan and Magee cards. Any explanations?

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Posted By: jay behrens

most people here don't bother with the SMR when it comes to vintage issues because the values are so far. I'm sure we all wish PSA was in the business of selling cards for what they list them in the SMR.

Jay

I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home, I would be arrested. So, I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: JimB

I think SMR is most off on caramels. Compare recent Mastro prices on E93s with SMR prices. For example McGraw in a 6 is listed at $750 and the one in Mastro closed at over $4600 with juice. I think every other E93 went for at least 3x SMR.
JimB

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Posted By: WP

The prices on the cards I indicated seem high.

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Posted By: jay behrens

That would be a first if the SMR has cards overvalued. They are usually undermarket by multiples.

Jay

I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home, I would be arrested. So, I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: Bob

What are the online SMRs for the Byrne, Doolan and Magee? In Mastro, in PSA 5 they went for close to $700 each when the commission is figured in.

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Posted By: JimB

SMR for those is $300.
JimB

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Posted By: David Vargha

The funny thing is that for pre-war cards, SMR and SCD can be valuable guides if one knows the multipliers or conversions. For example, cards in a set may go for around 2.5x SMR or VG/EX cards in another set might sell for the NM price in SCD. So if one has that basis, when other cards come up for sale, it makes it easier to know what a "reasonable" bidding range is.

DavidVargha@hotmail.com

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Posted By: WP

Probably just an error online
Jimmy Austin
300
500
900
1750
3500

2
Johnny Bates
600
900
1500
3000
9000

3
Bob Bescher
450
650
1100
2200
6500

4
Bobby Byrne
6000
8000
12000
24000
50000

5
Frank Chance (HOF)
600
900
1500
3000
9000

6
Ed Cicotte (Black Sox)
450
650
1100
2200
6500

7
Ty Cobb (HOF)
6000
8000
12000
24000
50000

8
Sam Crawford (HOF)
600
900
1500
3000
9000

9
Harry Davis
300
500
900
1750
3500

10
Art Devlin
600
900
1500
3000
9000

11
Josh Devore
450
650
1100
2200
6500

12
Mickey Doolan
6000
8000
12000
24000
50000

13
Patsy Dougherty
600
900
1500
3000
9000

14
Johnny Evers (HOF)
600
900
1500
3000
9000

15
Eddie Grant
300
500
900
1750
3500

16
Hugh Jennings (HOF)
600
900
1500
3000
9000

17
Red Kleinow
300
500
900
1750
3500

18
Joe Lake
600
900
1500
3000
9000

19
Nap Lajoie (HOF)
800
1200
2000
4000
12000

20
Tommy Leach
300
500
900
1750
3500

21
Hans Lobert
600
900
1500
3000
9000

22
Harry Lord
450
650
1100
2200
6500

23
Sherry Magee
6000
8000
12000
24000
50000

24
John McGraw (HOF)
600
900
1500
3000
9000

25
Earl Moore
300
500
900
1750
3500

26
Red Murray
600
900
1500
3000
9000

27
Tris Speaker (HOF)
800
1200
2000
4000
12000

29
Honus Wagner (HOF)
3200
4500
8000
17500
35000

30
Cy Young (HOF)
2000
3000
5500
11000
22000

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Posted By: JimB

David,
I think you are right in general that SMR can at least be a good guide for the prices of cards relative to others in the set, but sometimes - particularly with caramels - I do not think they are aware of which cards are tougher and therefore demand higher prices in the real market. For example, the E93 Chance is quite a bit tougher than other E93s and demands a premium, but this is not acknowledged, even relative to prices of other E93s (even given that the whole set is undervalued by about 3x-4x).
JimB

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Posted By: Bob

That has to be an error on the SMRs on Doolan, Magee and Byrne, otherwise I am selling all of my cards of these 3 guys and going to the Bahamas Seriously, I wonder if that is why my opposing bidder in the Mastro auction kept upping the bid (these were 3 of the 4 cards in the lot). Hmmmmmmmm.....