ferguson bakery card, second request

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Posted By: jim sexton

Apparently the 1916 D381 Ferguson Bakery card with the coupon still attached is a very rare item. I have been searching for quite some time, trying to find an image of this card. While several collectors have Fergusons, none had any with the coupon still attached. Does anyone on the board have an image of this or know where an image can be found? Many thanks, jims

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Posted By: leon

I agree. My guess is Larry Frisch has some but I am not sure. I would love to see one too as I never have seen one either. I do have the Wood that is supposed to be one, but without that coupon? regards

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Posted By: jim sexton

I contacted Larry a few months ago. He said he had a large collection of the D381s, but not a single one with the coupon still attached.

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Posted By: Daniel Bretta

This is an image from oldcardboard.com



Ahh...just noticed you said "Ferguson's bakery" and this is a Fleischman's...sorry

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Posted By: leon

OK then....if Larry F doesn't have one AND the collective experience that I have asked about this is about 300 yrs....is there really a Ferguson's Bakery type D381? I would be interested in what Bob Lemke would say about it? I am the type that either has to see something to believe it or get information from a very reliable source. The question remains...Is there really a Ferguson's Bakery type D381 or is this another urban card legend like the Darby Cigarettes cards (let's save that for another thread please)....regards all

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Posted By: fkw

The Ferguson's like Leon's Joe Wood card have a single line of print, and the Fleischmans have 2 lines of print.

I only have a scan of a Fleischmann with coupon, and I did a search on internet and found many others with coupons but they were all the Fleischmann's cards.

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Posted By: leon

Yes, they are easy to tell apart but at this point I am very skeptical of ANY Ferguson's Bakery cards in the D381 series. I am waiting, and have been for years, to see even 1 Ferguson's coupon. I am not saying that they "don't" exist at all, rather I am saying I am very skeptical....since no one, that I have spoken with, has ever seen one....

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Posted By: Paul

It's clear that the Fergusons have only one line of text. Leon's example obviously has a trimmed bottom edge. I suppose it's possible that it is merely a trimmed card. But it sure seems more likely that the card had a tab that was cut off. So doesn't that mean these things were issued with tabs? Maybe the offer on those tabs was just so good that no one could resist cutting them off.

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Posted By: leon

Paul- how is it clearly a Ferguson's and not a variation of a Fleischmann's? No one has ever seen one? I agree there was most likely a tab/coupon on Smokey Joe but who's to say what it was?

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Posted By: fkw

Leon your Wood card is the only card pictured on the Internet that has the single line (NAME/POSITION/TEAM all on one line), there are many pictures of D381's , many with coupons, but yours is the only one like that. I just think the Ferguson cards are far rarer, and with a coupon obviously even rarer.

Until someone shows me a single line card with a Fleishmann coupon, I will still think there are Fergusons. Where would they get that name??


Frank

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Posted By: jims

The Ferguson does exist and it has a unique message on it distinct from the Fleischmann card. The tear off coupon on the Ferguson card was used to re
deem a 23 inch square felt pillow top premium with 12 small pennants affixed to it. A small picture of the premium can be found on the ink blotter pictured in Frank Slocum's book on classic baseball cards. The text on the Ferguson coupon reads, "Bring or send 50 coupons to Ferguson Bakery, No 853 Albany St., Roxbury, Boston and receive in exchange a beautiful felt pillow top made from star baseball pennants or favorite movie actor pennants. This photo card was wrapped with Peerless bread, perfect for the home plate". Someone sent me the text but no picture. So it does exist.

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Posted By: leon

Thanks...that's all I needed. Then they do exist. And to think it took me years to get the info you just provided.....best regards

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Posted By: Joe_G.

Here is a scan of a photocopy a collecting friend sent me to share. I'll also paraphrase his letter as follows:

"Most of the Fergusons have the caption on one line while the Fleischmanns are on two lines. most photos are identical, but some are cropped tighter. In a very few cases, the caption is different (position change)."

Enjoy!

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Posted By: leon

First time I have ever seen one....Shoot, we might even call them that 4 letter word.....rare