Is this real?

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Posted By: Minty

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86840&item=5209147710&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Hi book value is $4,000, low is $2,000. Also, the seller has no feedback. Just need to know if it authentic

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Posted By: leon

from the scan it looks real....hard to tell if not in person but I don't remember reprint (read not scammer) sets of these.....regards

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Posted By: Scott Elkins

The real reason I thought it was real (back when it was listed as a T206), was the vertical crease - where the cards were originally folded to fit into packaging. The seller is from Texas - where these show up. I would be more comfortable if the seller didn't have "0" feedback however. Looks real - but, who knows with a Zero Feedback seller??????????

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Posted By: Richard

Austin, Texas?

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Posted By: will watson

i live in austin. i wonder if he would let me pick it up in person.

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Posted By: identify7

My recommendation: buy a lottery ticket, you have some chance. Bet on red (or black) in roulette; etc. But do not gamble on a scan of a unslabbed high value card from a seller with no feedback.

All Sales Are Final.

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Posted By: leon

I agree but only somewhat. The best way to handle this is to see if the seller will talk on the phone, or as the other poster said, let someone pick it up on person. That could give a good indication of good or bad. I have one of my best SF Hess cards from an ebayer with about a 1 feedback and a "grandma" story. My best find ever came from an ebayer with 1 feedback who could barely read or write and had a blurry scan.......Moral- never say "always". I think this auction will be good...but would only bid (and I am not) if I made some other contact with the seller that exuded more confidence than just his listing....regards

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Posted By: Peter Spaeth

The person is new to ebay which explains the lack of feedback. I think it's certainly a better gamble than buying a lottery ticket. In the immortal words of Frank Loesser, "You simply gotta gamble, you get no guarantee. Now doesn't that kind of apply to you and I? You and me! Whatever." Where is Joe P. who used to appreciate such things?

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Posted By: identify7

I appreciate your input, your continued training and supoport guys. However, although you can squeeze the truth out of a situation, I may not be able to determine with confidence from a phone conversation the same things which you can.

Until I am up to that level of sophistication, I shy away from auctions which have characteristics as shown here. Specifically:

- high value card should be slabbed, but isn't
- seller has limited feedback
- "All sales are final"

Perhaps if I wanted the card I may feel differently. But this combination of circumstantial evidence gives clear warning.

And I will certainly agree that evidence is not proof.

Good luck, and let us know what happens!

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Posted By: Minty

Thanks, I am not sure I am going to bid on this. It just seems really suspecious to me. Maybe one of you guys can steal it for $200 dollars, slab it, and then laugh in my face. LOL

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Posted By: identify7

Hold on a minute Minty. Don't bail yet. You have the attention of two experienced Net54 veterans. And there is more to this story.

The seller has come up with two dozen or so cards attractive to a diverse collecting audience. Some are slabbed. It looks like a potential good start for an entry in this marketplace. He could be legit.

As Leon points out, often bargains are available from persons with limited feedback. Particularly if they are trying to start up an eBay operation.

Evidence is not proof.

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Posted By: quan

if everybody promise to stay away i will STEAL it for the $200 and take the gamble. From my correspondence with the seller he/she sign of as Amber, selling the cards to pay off for graduate school...who knows where this story will end.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

I got a nice SF Hess boxing card from a local seller with no feedback for about 60% of normal price. I took a risk because the scans looked good and I figured I could haul him into court with no effort if I was cheated. As long as they will let you come to pick up the card and pay for it in person, WTF, go for it.

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Posted By: identify7

Hold on, now that I think of it - I could live with a Cobb for $200. even if it is a mello mint.

95 YEARS AGO TODAY (June 17, 1910):
When Louis Drucke falters against the Pirates in the top of the 9th, Giants
manager John McGraw calls for Bugs Raymond to protect the 3–2 lead. Raymond has
supposedly been warming up behind the stands, but apparently had visited a
saloon across the way, and swapped a ball for two shots of whiskey. Raymond hits
two batters, allows two hits and tosses one wild, and the Pirates win, 6–3. A
furious McGraw suspends the pitcher indefinitely. Bugs will be back on July 5th.

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Posted By: leon

Almost every time I have emailed a seller I have been able to tell, by what they say and how they say it, if the items and themselves are legit. What is encouraging about looking at this sellers other items is that not every one is Cobb, Wagner, Ruth, or Matty. They have some low end items as well as nice ones. I firmly believe an email would be very telltale......fortunately I am not interested in pursuing any of their cards. I just got on my desk an E105 Bescher in a 7 holder. (thanks B/S/T) Mello mints are cool......regards

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Posted By: identify7

The little budget which I have is earmarked for other bids. I have no plans for any of this sellers cards.

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Posted By: Anonymous

The all sales are final thing is really killing me!

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Posted By: Scott Elkins

B/C I am a gambler as well - and this looks like a much better gamble than some bets I have made in Football!

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Posted By: Anonymous

I am also new to vintage and I don't wan't this card to break me and make me loose faith in all of hummanity.

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Posted By: Anonymous

Someone says this looks like a scam username, this is what he said,

"Zero feedback and selling a high-end item like that? And the All sales are final comment? Red flags are flying all over the place as if it were a Soviet military parade. Texas? Looks like Kimpossible is trying to strike again. Kimpossible was selling fake tobacco issues as authentic items on eBay under different IDs a while back. I would keep track of that eBay ID and not touch a single item she has to sell.

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Posted By: Bottom of the Ninth

I was the high bidder on the Mello Mint Cobb. Just to let everyone now that I got the card today and it is the real deal. The seller is 100% trustworthy and reliable. I had exchanged numerous emails with her prior to the conclusion of the auction and knew this was not a scam. You can bid with absolute confidence.

Greg

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Posted By: Wesley

Nice pickup Greg! Neither SGC or PSA have graded a E105 Cobb according to their population reports. I was going to go strong but chickened out at the last minute. Congrats for having the cajones and the foresight to win the card.