Ty Cobb Brand Tobacco - T-206

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Posted By: canjond

Hello guys and Julie... I am trying to compile some background research on the 16 brands of the T-206 set. However, I want to make sure I'm completely accurate when talking about the Ty Cobb backed cards. From my understanding, the Ty Cobb backed cards never actually went to production or were inserted into the Ty Cobb tin it is believed they were designed for. Instead, they were either produced as a test or handed out along with the tin as a test.

Since I want to be 100% accurate with what I say, I am defferring to all of you to correct me in any way, shape, or form with these statements and to educate me!

Oops - forgot... Josh Evans, if you see this could you provide me with your email address or does anyone happen to know what his email address is?

Thanks!

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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

I've been collecting boxes for over 10 years now. I've never seen a Ty Cobb slide & shell box, only the tins which go for lots of money. I think it's only a rumor that the cards were in tins, or that they were handed out as promos. I guess we'll never know.

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Posted By: Scott

...anyway, that's what I've heard. So I guess at some point I'll find a stash of them at an antique store.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi All,
Most, If not all T206 experts agree(Mastro, Martineau, Allen, etc.) that Ty Cobb backed cards were not inserted into Ty Cobb tobacco tins. They believe they were given away as promotional items at some type of event. The fact that 5 of the 13-14 known example were found in the same house in GA may lend support for this theory. I can't believe I turned one down for $2500.00........... Of course that's a lot of money for a 14 year old....


Be well Brian

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Posted By: Andrew

Anymore details on the Georgia find where the Cobb backs were discovered? I really enjoy similar stories such as how the T206 Wagner strip and '52 Topps wax box came into the hobby.

“A smooth sea never made a skilled mariner.” - English Proverb

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Posted By: Scott Elkins

Like I have always thought - they did probably come in the Ty Cobb tobacco tins. The person mentions that his grandfather smoked Piedmont and eventually the Ty Cobb brand tobacco! Maybe it was only issued in a "test" market or for a very short period of time - explaining the rarity????? Nobody knows for certain. However, both the cards and tins are extremely scarce - there HAS to be a relation.

http://www.t206museum.com/page/periodical_8.html

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Posted By: Julie

set proper; he says, even the texture of the surface and thickness of the card is slightly different (from other T206s). I have never seen one myself, except in pictures.

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Posted By: Scott Elkins

Just like the T215's, T213's etc. that used T206 images on the fronts. I still feel this was some type of promotional issue that is probably a different animal than T206 - most likely a "regional" issue for GA. However, I still feel that these cards came in the Ty Cobb tobacco tins.

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Posted By: Joe P.

Mark Macrae's thoughts.
IMHO, It's a seperate tobacco issue.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

My sources (who I cannot reveal) tell me that the Ty Cobb "King of the Tobacco Smoking World" cards were issued in 1906...

making them his true rookie cards.

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Posted By: HW

I would think that if they were issued together, then the card would have the bat on pose instead of the red background.

I believe Lipset once found the pair together in a collection and may have concluded that they came together. I believe this is where the idea comes from that they were issued together.

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Posted By: leon

Some hobby veterans think it might be T213'ish series.....I don't know... I think they were made in 1915 (just for HAL).....later

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Posted By: Scott

the ad back looks to be referring to "Ty Cobb" as a tobacco brand that is "king" of the tobacco world, not as "Ty Cobb" the human being. Ty Cobb was king of baseball possibly, but not king of the tobacco world. This makes me think it is likely that the card came in the tin, or at least that was the intention.