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Posted By: leon

Hey Folks,
Not a big deal and I know this is for cards but since I collect packs now AND this sort of goes hand in hand I would appreciate some feedback. An expert on ephemera tells me this is fake. Is it?


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1804400546


not a big deal since it was only a few bucks but I am curious....
best regards

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Posted By: petecld

Judging from the image it doesn't look fake but I'd like to see the printing style under magnification first. i own a couple of chinese cards with Pirate backs and I don't see anything obviously wrong with them.

Why did your expert say it was fake?

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Posted By: leon

Hey Pete,
Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. I should have looped it last night but forgot to. He said he was just positive it was fake and that was it. I have bought some fake stuff (by accident and cheap) before and this does not look fake. The printing looks very "period" with very good lithography. regards again....leon

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Posted By: leon

If anyone was interested I got a response from someone a lot more knowledgable than myself. The answer as to if it is a fake is yes and no......his response

I have seen in Beijng the original calender 1 time (!) and its
size is DIN A3, the paper is very thin and very vulnerable. The calenders
date from the beginning periode of the BATCO in China and Asia (1900-1914).
The price of that specific calender I saw was $250 and that is a very high
price for chinese collectors. The small-sized calenders you and I bought
date from the 20s and 30s, knowing to be the 'golden' time of the cigarette
cards. They are copies (that is what the chinese industry is best in!) but
still from the good time (before WW2), otherwise I also would not have liked
them. I have one serie with the chinese monkey-king, from that I learned
that the calenders have been issued in a few different stories. So BATCO
only re-used the popularity of these chinese stories in their advertisement.
That makes them both a copy from the first DIN A3 calender from 1905-1914,
and an original from somewhere between 1925-1939! After the Japanese
occupied Mantschourei it was no big fun anymore to collect cigarette cards
in China.

that was it ....best regards,
leon