Interesting BST Experience

Gorditadogg · #1 08-30-2025, 10:56 AM

I had an interesting experience yesterday on our BST site. Most of you I think know me by now. I've bought and sold hundreds of cards on this site, and just about every deal has gone smoothly.

Well, a member put a card up for sale yesterday. It was kind of an oddball card, one I wasn't familiar with. I googled it and it looked legit. Then I checked with PSA and there were just a few graded.

The asking price wasn't that much so I sent the seller a PM to say I'd take it. I got a PM back with his email and he asked me to pay PPF&F, which I did.

An hour later I got another PM saying he was so sorry but he decided to sell the card to someone else, and that he was refunding my money, which he did.

So I'm not out anything, but I'm kind of disappointed. It just goes to show that a deal isn't done until you get the card in hand.

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rjackson44 · #2 08-30-2025, 11:02 AM

Who was it so i can block

Smanzari · #3 08-30-2025, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I had an interesting experience yesterday on our BST site. Most of you I think know me by now. I've bought and sold hundreds of cards on this site, and just about every deal has gone smoothly.

Well, a member put a card up for sale yesterday. It was kind of an oddball card, one I wasn't familiar with. I googled it and it looked legit. Then I checked with PSA and there were just a few graded.

The asking price wasn't that much so I sent the seller a PM to say I'd take it. I got a PM back with his email and he asked me to pay PPF&F, which I did.

An hour later I got another PM saying he was so sorry but he decided to sell the card to someone else, and that he was refunding my money, which he did.

So I'm not out anything, but I'm kind of disappointed. It just goes to show that a deal isn't done until you get the card in hand.

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I've had some interesting occurrences recently, as well, but gave the sellers the benefit of the doubt - I'm going to PM you to see if its any of the same individual(s); If so I'm going to "remove the benefit(s)," block and tattle to Leon

Leon · #4 08-30-2025, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Smanzari

I've had some interesting occurrences recently, as well, but gave the sellers the benefit of the doubt - I'm going to PM you to see if its any of the same individual(s); If so I'm going to "remove the benefit(s)," block and tattle to Leon

I always appreciate PMs of those not following through. If I hear their name 2x, there is a good chance they will be gone, unless they satisfactorily 'splain their situations.
There are usually 3 sides to a story, but not always.

Flintboy · #5 08-30-2025, 01:16 PM

Going to give a vouch to Al. Bought a 69 raw Rose awhile back, never showed up. No doubt in my mind he sent it, but Florida is where mail goes to die. Refunded me and was great about it. Really appreciated how he handled it.

Casey2296 · #6 08-30-2025, 01:19 PM

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Without knowing the details it�s generally bad form to renege after payment received without a good explanation.
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Gorditadogg · #7 08-30-2025, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296

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Without knowing the details it�s generally bad form to renege after payment received without a good explanation.

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I agree, Phil. Thank goodness it is a rarety for it to happen on here.

Coincidentally I made another deal yesterday, and it was totally the opposite. I was buying some Venezuelan Topps cards on here from dantrades63105 and after we agreed to the deal we realized that one of the cards was mispriced. I tried to get him to take more money, but he said a deal's a deal and wouldn't adjust the price. I figure I will have to even it up next time.

Thanks, Dan for a great deal!

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Balticfox · #8 09-01-2025, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296

Without knowing the details it�s generally bad form to renege after payment received without a good explanation.

It's not just bad form. It's criminal. It's a clear violation of contract law. Any kind of attempt not to honour one's bid or offer is absolutely intolerable in the securities industry and any such behaviour is punished severely.

Gorditadogg · #9 08-30-2025, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Flintboy

Going to give a vouch to Al. Bought a 69 raw Rose awhile back, never showed up. No doubt in my mind he sent it, but Florida is where mail goes to die. Refunded me and was great about it. Really appreciated how he handled it.

Thank you, Brian. That was a really nice Rose, too. It's a shame it didn't make it to you.

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JollyElm · #10 08-31-2025, 03:22 PM

We should have a 'Guess the Perp' contest.

For me, the most important clue in narrowing down the transaction so far is this statement:
"Well, a member put a card up for sale yesterday. It was kind of an oddball card, one I wasn't familiar with. I googled it and it looked legit. Then I checked with PSA and there were just a few graded."

Gorditadogg · #11 09-01-2025, 01:35 PM

I don't think the guy needs to be outed. And there's no need for him to come on here to explain. It's pretty easy to understand what happened. Just ask yourself why he would sell the card to someone else after he'd already been paid for it.

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BobbyStrawberry · #12 09-01-2025, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I don't think the guy needs to be outed. And there's no need for him to come on here to explain. It's pretty easy to understand what happened. Just ask yourself why he would sell the card to someone else after he'd already been paid for it.

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Reneging on a deal is not supposed to happen on here though, right?

Mozzie22 · #13 09-01-2025, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I don't think the guy needs to be outed. And there's no need for him to come on here to explain. It's pretty easy to understand what happened. Just ask yourself why he would sell the card to someone else after he'd already been paid for it.

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Then why the hell did you bring it up? Grow a pair and post who it was so others don't get screwed.

Lorewalker · #14 09-01-2025, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mozzie22

Then why the hell did you bring it up? Grow a pair and post who it was so others don't get screwed.

Interesting thread. I guess he just wanted to share a story. I know if I had that happen I would let Leon know and make a mention here to warn others and in case the other person wanted to explain.

Gorditadogg · #15 09-01-2025, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Interesting thread. I guess he just wanted to share a story. I know if I had that happen I would let Leon know and make a mention here to warn others and in case the other person wanted to explain.

Again, I don't think there is anything for the seller to explain. I think we all can figure out what happened.

And yes, I did want to vent a little, but I mostly wanted to see what the board's thoughts are. Both the buyer and seller are active, long-time members. I am surprised they did what they did, but I don't feel I've got a consensus that I've been wronged.

Leon's got plenty to do taking care of his dogs. He doesn't need to intervene in every spat that goes on here.

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Mark17 · #16 09-01-2025, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Both the buyer and seller are active, long-time members. I am surprised they did what they did, but I don't feel I've got a consensus that I've been wronged.

You've been wronged. In life, we get to choose who we will be. Some decide integrity is important to them. Others decide reneging to make some extra money is more important.

premiercardcollectors · #17 09-08-2025, 06:44 PM

As a buyer I just expect that people do what they say they are going to do and I do the same when selling.

Geoff Bedine
Premier Card Collectors
Since 1977

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