Calling Scot Reader - writeup of Scarcity Order in T206

[parkerj33]

Hi all.

Does anyone, (Scot are you out there?), have the writeup of the scarcity order Scot did for the t206 set? It disappeared with his defunct site.

thanks!
jim.

[toledo_mudhen]

Hey Jim - I have a copy of his

"Scott Reader - InsideT206 - Centennial Edition"

Where he does go over scarcity in some detail.

Is that what you are looking for?

If so send me your email address and I can forward a copy.

[parkerj33]

yes i have that....this was writeup on his website that went into detail for all cards 1-524...

[sreader3]

Jim, Here you go. Regards, Scot

1 Ho. Wagner (Pittsburg)
2 Magie
3 J. Doyle (Hands High "N.Y. Nat'l")
4 O'Hara (St. Louis)
5 Demmitt (St. Louis)
6 Plank
7 Lundgren (Chicago)
8 J. Doyle (Hands High "N.Y.")
9 Reagan
10 Ellam
11 Cranston
12 Manion
13 C. Smith (Shreveport)
14 B. Hart (Little Rock)
15 Ames (Hands at Chest)
16 F. Smith (Chicago and Boston)
17 Schulte (Front View)
18 Adkins
19 Coles
20 Otey
21 Elberfeld (Portrait Washington)
22 Titus
23 D. Jordan (Atlanta)
24 Seitz
25 Kiernan
26 Donlin (Fielding)
27 F. White (Houston)
28 Perdue
29 Persons
30 Ganley
31 H. Shaw (Providence)
32 Bernhard
33 G. Brown (Chicago)
34 Thielman
35 M. Miller (Dallas)
36 Thebo
37 L. Doyle (Throwing)
38 Lentz
39 Foster
40 Magee (Portrait)
41 Rockenfeld
42 Pattee
43 S. Smith (Atlanta)
44 Mullin (Batting)
45 Reulbach (Glove Shows)
46 Mullaney
47 Shaughnessy
48 Guiheen
49 Orth
50 Bay
51 Paige
52 E. Howard (Savannah)
53 Pelty (Horizontal)
54 Violat
55 Lafitte
56 McCauley
57 Bastian
58 Lundgren (Kansas City)
59 Evers (Blue Sky)
60 Dessau
61 Breitenstein
62 Burch (Batting)
63 Molesworth
64 Hickman
65 Ryan
66 Carey
67 I. Young (Minneapolis)
68 O'Neil
69 Lipe
70 Elberfeld (New York)
71 G. Brown (Washington)
72 Cobb (Green Portrait)
73 King
74 Pastorius
75 Helm
76 Manning (Pitching)
77 Dahlen (Boston)
78 Pickering
79 Doolin
80 Spencer
81 Nichols
82 Thornton
83 Thomas
84 Rhoades (Arm Extended)
85 Gibson
86 Dahlen (Brooklyn)
87 Lumley
88 Rucker (Portrait)
89 Wilhelm (Holding Bat)
90 Lobert
91 Revelle
92 J. Hart (Montgomery)
93 F. Mitchell (Toronto)
94 Merkle (Throwing)
95 Chase (Pink Portrait)
96 Herzog (New York)
97 J. Tannehill (Washington)
98 Durham
99 Oakes
100 Mullin (Throwing)
101 Conroy (Fielding)
102 Nicholls
103 Stahl (Glove On)
104 Hooker
105 Mullen
106 Raymond
107 P. Graham (Boston)
108 O'Hara (New York)
109 Stark
110 Hofman
111 Tinker (Hands on Knees)
112 Leifield (Batting)
113 Karger
114 Turner
115 Ames (Portrait)
116 F. Smith (Chicago White Cap)
117 Wiltse (Cap On)
118 A. Shaw (St. Louis)
119 Merritt
120 Latham
121 Schirm
122 McGann
123 Schaefer (Detroit)
124 Criger
125 Overall (Portrait)
126 Kleinow (Boston)
127 T. Jordan (Portrait)
128 Phelps
129 Egan
130 Beck
131 Westlake
132 Herzog (Boston)
133 Hall
134 Knight (Portrait)
135 Dooin
136 Randall
137 F. Jones (Hands on Hips)
138 Hoblitzell
139 Bowerman
140 Armbruster
141 Seymour (Portrait)
142 Powers
143 Crandall (No Cap)
144 H. McIntyre (Brooklyn)
145 Beaumont
146 Myers (Fielding)
147 Donovan (Portrait)
148 Needham
149 Isbell
150 Bender (Trees)
151 Bell (Hands above Head)
152 Birmingham
153 Merkle (Portrait)
154 Kisinger
155 Donohue
156 Lindaman
157 Taylor
158 Greminger
159 Steinfeldt (Portrait)
160 Oldring (Holding Bat)
161 Purtell
162 Clancy
163 McGraw (No Cap)
164 Ball (Cleveland)
165 McGlynn
166 T. Jones (St. Louis)
167 J. Delehanty (Washington)
168 Oldring (Fielding)
169 Puttman
170 Carr
171 Malarkey
172 Campbell
173 Chase (Holding Trophy)
174 Wiltse (No Cap)
175 Snodgrass (Batting)
176 Kleinow (N.Y. Catching)
177 Gray
178 Moriarty
179 Williams
180 Bransfield
181 Butler
182 Leach (Portrait)
183 Schaefer (Washington)
184 Casey
185 Willis (Pittsburg)
186 Lord
187 Lake (New York)
188 M. Brown (Cubs on Shirt)
189 Rudolph
190 Knabe
191 J.J. Clarke (Cleveland)
192 F. Jones (Chicago Portrait)
193 Schlei (Batting)
194 Bender (No Trees)
195 Bergen (Catching)
196 Abbaticchio (Brown Sleeves)
197 Arndt
198 Phelan
199 Konetchy (Glove High)
200 Abbaticchio (Blue Sleeves)
201 B. Sweeney (Boston)
202 Jo. Dunn (Brooklyn)
203 H. Moran (Providence)
204 Cassidy
205 Spade
206 Sullivan
207 Schlei (Portrait)
208 Leifield (Pitching)
209 Devlin
210 Niles
211 Parent
212 Fromme
213 Myers (Batting)
214 Tenney
215 Willett
216 Camnitz (Arm at Side)
217 P. Moran (Chicago)
218 Kroh
219 Kelley
220 Camnitz (Hands High)
221 Brain
222 Gilbert
223 Bates
224 Tinker (Bat On Shoulder)
225 Rossman
226 D. White (Chicago Throwing)
227 Powell
228 Kruger
229 Pfeister (Throwing)
230 Covaleski
231 Wilhelm (Hands at Chest)
232 Tinker (Portrait)
233 Poland
234 D. White (Portrait)
235 McQuillan (Holding Bat)
236 Murphy (Throwing)
237 Goode
238 Wilson
239 Barger
240 Shipke
241 Dubuc
242 Ferris
243 Stone
244 C. Young (Bare Hand Shows)
245 Overall (Hands at Waist)
246 Chance (Red Portrait)
247 F. Smith (Chcago Dark Cap)
248 Mathewson (White Cap)
249 Bradley (Batting)
250 Ritchey
251 Ferguson
252 Ewing
253 Pelty (Vertical)
254 Bridwell (No Cap)
255 McGinley
256 Lake (St. Louis No Ball)
257 L. Doyle (Portrait)
258 Sheckard (No Glove)
259 Weimer
260 Cicotte
261 Camnitz (Arms Folded)
262 Chase (White Cap)
263 Flick
264 Cobb (Bat on Shoulder)
265 Elberfeld (Fielding)
266 Keeler (Portrait)
267 H. Davis ("H" on Front)
268 Marquard (Throwing)
269 I. Hoffman (Providence)
270 Byrne
271 Demmitt (New York)
272 Groom
273 B. Hinchman (Cleveland)
274 Congalton
275 McQuillan (Holding Ball)
276 Shannon
277 Rucker (Throwing)
278 Downs
279 M. Brown (Portrait)
280 Steinfeldt (Holding Bat)
281 Chesbro
282 Dougherty (Arm in Air)
283 Schlafly
284 F. Clarke (Holding Bat)
285 Bescher (Hands in Air)
286 Bell (Follow Through)
287 Kling
288 Ball (New York)
289 Killian (Pitching)
290 Schlei (Catching)
291 Bergen (Batting)
292 Evers (Portrait)
293 Hahn
294 Overall (Hands at Face)
295 Strang
296 Schlute (Back View)
297 Stahl (No Glove)
298 M. McIntyre (Detroit)
299 Cree
300 Ha. Smith (Brooklyn)
301 He. Wagner (Bat on Right Shoulder)
302 Jennings (Portrait)
303 Seymour (Batting)
304 Doolan (Fielding)
305 Starr
306 Hunter
307 D. Howard (Chicago)
308 Hallman
309 Lajoie (Portrait)
310 Willis (Holding Bat)
311 Cross
312 F. Clarke (Portrait)
313 Frill
314 Crawford (Holding Bat)
315 Fritz
316 Burch (Fielding)
317 Kleinow (Batting)
318 Reulbach (No Glove)
319 Ford
320 Quinn
321 McLean
322 Jackson
323 Alperman
324 Jacklitsch
325 McAleese
326 Stovall (Portrait)
327 Meyers
328 Donlin (Holding Bat)
329 McBride
330 L. Doyle (Holding Bat)
331 Mathewson (Portrait)
332 L. Tannehill ("L" on Front)
333 Hartsel
334 O'Leary (Hands on Knees)
335 Lattimore
336 Crawford (Throwing)
337 Murray (Portrait)
338 Knight (Holding Bat)
339 J. White (Buffalo)
340 Donlin (Seated)
341 Evans
342 Berger
343 Howell (Hand at Waist)
344 Ames (Hands above Head)
345 Lake (St. Louis Holding Ball)
346 Leach (Bending)
347 He. Wagner (Bat on Left Shoulder)
348 Burke
349 Moeller
350 Lavender
351 Wiltse (Throwing)
352 Doolan (Batting)
353 Marshall
354 Summers
355 Paskert
356 Freeman
357 Willetts
358 Bender (Portrait)
359 Mowrey
360 Walsh
361 Waddell (Portrait)
362 Cravath
363 Hemphill
364 Dougherty (Portrait)
365 Street (Portrait)
366 Criss
367 Flanagan
368 Waddell (Throwing)
369 Jennings (Both Hands)
370 Milligan
371 Street (Catching)
372 Pfeister (Seated)
373 B. Graham (St. Louis)
374 Bradley (Portrait)
375 Lennox
376 Schmidt (Throwing)
377 Barry (Milwaukee)
378 Nattress
379 Unglaub
380 Rhodes
381 Fletcher
382 Clark (Columbus)
383 O'Brien
384 Schreck
385 Gandil
386 Brashear
387 Warhop
388 Barry (Philadelphia)
389 Johnson (Portrait)
390 Seymour (Throwing)
391 Burns
392 Ja. Dunn (Baltimore)
393 Slagle
394 Dineen
395 McElveen
396 Snodgrass (Catching)
397 Magee (Holding Bat)
398 Krause (Pitching)
399 Milan
400 Rhoades (Hands at Chest)
401 Donovan (Throwing)
402 LaPorte
403 J. Sweeney (New York)
404 McGraw (Glove at Hip)
405 Hannifin
406 Jennings (One Hand)
407 Sharpe
408 Oberlin
409 Schmidt (Portrait)
410 Pfeffer
411 D. Hoffman (St. Louis)
412 Payne
413 Ritter
414 Cobb (Bat off Shoulder)
415 Gasper
416 H. Hinchman (Toledo)
417 L. Tannehill (Chicago No "L" on Front)
418 Owen
419 C. Young (Portrait)
420 Stovall (Batting)
421 Konetchy (Glove Low)
422 H. Davis (No "H" on Front)
423 Liebhardt
424 Charles
425 M. Mitchell (Cincinnati)
426 Dygert
427 Grimshaw
428 Quillen
429 Batch
430 Krause (Portrait)
431 Hayden
432 Fiene (Throwing)
433 Tinker (Bat Off Shoulder)
434 McGraw (Portrait Cap On)
435 He. Smith (Buffalo)
436 Conroy (Holding Bat)
437 Howell (Portrait)
438 Carrigan
439 Lajoie (Holding Bat)
440 O'Leary (Portrait)
441 G. Davis (Chicago)
442 Becker
443 Manning (Batting)
444 Crandall (Cap On)
445 Griffith (Portrait)
446 Murray (Batting)
447 Downey (Batting)
448 Abstein
449 Hulswitt
450 Murphy (Batting)
451 Anderson
452 Killian (Portrait)
453 Wright
454 Bescher (Portrait)
455 Hummel
456 C. Young (Glove On)
457 Zimmerman
458 T. Jordan (Brooklyn Batting)
459 Marquard (Hands at Side)
460 Scott
461 Stephens
462 Downey (Fielding)
463 Huggins (Portrait)
464 Lajoie (Throwing)
465 Mattern
466 Devore
467 Dorner
468 Perring
469 Fiene (Portrait)
470 Wallace
471 Engle
472 Marquard (Portrait)
473 McGraw (Finger in Air)
474 Bridwell (Cap On)
475 Ganzel
476 Bush
477 Geyer
478 Chappelle
479 Sheckard (Glove On)
480 H. McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
481 Bliss
482 F. Delehanty (Louisville)
483 Barbeau
484 Chance (Batting)
485 McCormick
486 Clymer
487 Willis (Throwing)
488 Huggins (Hands at Mouth)
489 Abbott
490 Maloney
491 Joss (Portrait)
492 Atz
493 Griffith (Batting)
494 Livingstone
495 Blackburne
496 Keeler (Holding Bat)
497 Easterly
498 Duffy
499 Burchell
500 Baker
501 Arellanes
502 Johnson (Pitching)
503 M. Brown (Chicago on Shirt)
504 McGinnity
505 J. Collins (Minneapolis)
506 Stanage
507 Davidson
508 Speaker
509 Phillippe
510 Bresnahan (Portrait)
511 D. Jones (Detroit)
512 E. Collins (Philadelphia)
513 Bresnahan (Batting)
514 D. Miller (Pittsburg)
515 Beckley
516 Maddox
517 Wheat
518 Chase (Blue Portrait)
519 Evers (Yellow Sky)
520 Joss (Pitching)
521 Chance (Yellow Portrait)
522 Mathewson (Dark Cap)
523 Chase (Dark Cap)
524 Cobb (Red Portrait)

[Blunder19]

https://www.oldcardboard.com/t/t206/...al-edition.pdf

[parkerj33]

Scott I have the list. I was looking for the awesome writeup you wrote to accompany


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[sreader3]

Let me look tomorrow.

I should point out that the first six are out-of-order (this should be obvious) because the grade-weighted population ranking algorithm that I used is not suited to very low population cards. N is simply too small.

The correct order for 1-6 is:

1. J. Doyle (Hands High “N.Y. Nat'l”)
2. Ho. Wagner (Pittsburg)
3. Plank
4. Magie
5. O'Hara (St. Louis)
6. Demmitt (St. Louis)

[parkerj33]

I agree with those 6. Not sure why O’Hara would be rarer than demmitt but it does feel that way.


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[sreader3]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

I agree with those 6. Not sure why O’Hara would be rarer than demmitt but it does feel that way.

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Demmitt & O'Hara are pretty close in terms of scarcity. The difference may come down to random destruction/discard of O'Haras at a slightly higher rate.

I found a PDF of the article you are interested in. Check your PMs.

[NuclearMike]

I’m surprise Fritz, a Southern Leaguer, is 315. I would have thought he would be in the 30s or 40s.

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by NuclearMike

I’m surprise Fritz, a Southern Leaguer, is 315. I would have thought he would be in the 30s or 40s.

As of 2016, when the scarcity rankings were compiled, the average grade assigned to PSA submitted Fritz cards was near 4.0, on par with many common major leaguers, whereas the average grade assigned to other submitted southern leaguer cards tended closer to 3.5 or even lower. This unusually high average assigned grade for Fritzes relative to other southern leaguers could have been an anomaly, but the algorithm took it into account in assessing relative scarcity, resulting in Fritz getting a scarcity ranking more typical of major leaguers than southern leaguers despite having a relatively low PSA population.

[parkerj33]

Fritz is 57 in the data I copied from Scot’s old site.


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[NuclearMike]

Ah. That makes sense to me as I copied Scot's ranking also but didn't get all of them. So I had holes to fill and used the post from a couple days ago by Scot to fill in the blanks. But I'm off by one starting at 57 and that must be the reason.

Scot- Did you periodically update the rankings on your (wonderful) site? Does that explain Frisk going from 57 to 315?