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Trips For Trade - Mantle, Aaron, Variations, Rarities, RCs, etc...
Although net54 is undoubtedly 'just' a buying/selling venue, I hope there are still traders about.
Below are three different examples of a wide range of valuable cards that are available for trade. (Please note: New additions will be added in separate posts if and when I acquire trips of them, and not back here in the OP.) • I purposely haven't put a specific dollar trade value on anything. We all know what these guys are generally 'worth,' so treat me fairly and I'll do the same. • If you're interested in a card/cards, please let me know from the outset what types of stuff you have to trade. • There is a list of things I am generally interested in posted below. • If you have any questions or are interested in talking, give me a shout!! **Technical note: Some pics are amalgams, where I combined different scans from different times, especially if I had an additional card available (quads?) after one found a new home.** **I need to hold onto at least one of the 'best' of each grouping for my PC.** 1968 Topps #280 Mickey Mantle Officially, the last playing days 'Mick' card... TRIPS01-1968Mantle280.jpg 1961 Topps #576 Roger Maris All Star Sixty one in '61 high number... TRIPS03-1961MarisAS576.jpg 1977 Burger King #23 Lou Piniella Steinbrenner said, "Frickin' add Lou to the set!!!," and they complied, but way too late in the run... TRIPS04-1977PiniellaBK23.jpg 1963 Fleer NNO Checklist Short printed (and usually marked up by kids) makes this one a rarity... TRIPS05-1963FleerChecklistNNO.jpg 1961 Topps #577 Hank Aaron All Star 'Hammerin' Hank' in his prime... TRIPS06-1961AaronAS577.jpg The 'MC' is a bothersome BS technicality. The entire back of the Aaron card is all there, but the tiniest sliver of black from the adjoining card appears at bottom. That's it. This scan is from before it was graded... TRIPS06b-1961AaronAS577BACK.jpg 1968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver Second-year 'Tom Terrific.' Check out what similar cards are going for on eBay... TRIPS02-1968Seaver45.jpg 1964 Topps #331 A.L. Bombers A wonderful sun-splashed moment at Yankee Stadium captured for eternity... TRIPS07-1964ALBombers331.jpg 1972 Topps #255 Julius Erving ABA All Star 'Dr. J' getting it done against his future team on this rookie year card... TRIPS09-1972ErvingAS255.jpg 1966 Topps #303 Indians Team 'No Dot' Variation Wicked tough short-printed error... TRIPS10-1966IndiansNODOT303b.jpg 1960 Topps #563 Mickey Mantle All Star 'The Mick' looking to book a long trip for an incoming pitch... TRIPS11-1960MantleAS563.jpg 1967 Topps #128 Ed Spiezio 'Most of SPIE Missing' Variation A career .238 hitter whose card is sought by everyone... TRIPS12-1967SpiezioVAR128.jpg I am particularly interested in these: • HOF'ers in nice shape from the 50's through early 70's (preferably graded, but open to cards in their natural state) • Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Mickey Mantle, Sandy Koufax, Jackie Robinson, Ted Williams, Roberto Clemente, Babe Ruth and Nolan Ryan cards • 1971 Topps Greatest Moments • Tough to find errors and variations from the 50's through the early 70's • 1964 Topps Stand-Ups (need virtually any in nice shape) • 1961-67 Topps high numbers and SP's • 1963 Fleer BB stars and HOF'ers in nice shape • 1967 Laughlin World Series (with address on back) in high grade • Major HOFer rookie cards • 1954 Bowman BB stars and HOF'ers in nice shape • 1954 Red Heart BB (need virtually any in nice shape) • And who knows what else?
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land  https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.  Last edited by JollyElm; 04-10-2025 at 04:53 PM. 
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07-18-2022, 03:03 PM
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Continued...
1973 Topps #280 Al Kaline 'Band Aid/Bandage' Variation 'Mr. Tiger' didn't let a head injury keep him from striking a pose for the Topps photog... TRIPS13-1973KalineBandage280.jpg 1961 Topps #545 Hoyt Wilhelm All hail the high numbered knuckler... TRIPS14-1961Wilhelm545.jpg 1973 Topps #615 Mike Schmidt RC Hot corner, hot card... TRIPS15-1973Schmidt615.jpg 1961 Topps #578 Mickey Mantle All Star Up, up and away the pricing of this tough '61 high number continues to go... TRIPS16-1961MantleAS578.jpg 1972 Topps #754 Frank Robinson Traded An awesome card from the ultra cool high number 'Traded' subset... TRIPS17-1972RobinsonTraded754.jpg 1966 East Hills #21 Roberto Clemente A delectable, blank-backed regional issue... Update: The extra Clemente has been traded, so these are no longer available.
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow. Last edited by JollyElm; 03-10-2025 at 06:27 PM.
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07-29-2022, 01:57 PM
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More deliciousness...
1965 Topps #134 WS Game #3 - Mantle's Clutch HR The pitched ball sitting in the catcher's mitt 'identifies' as a long home run... TRIPS19-1965MantlesClutchHR134.jpg 1972 Topps #434 Johnny Bench In Action If a pitch can be used as a metaphor for centering, this card is ALWAYS found way off the plate... TRIPS20-1972BenchIA434.jpg 1961 Topps #531 Jim Coates A tough, tough 1961 high number, and a Yankee to boot... TRIPS22-1961Coates531.jpg 1970 Topps #712 Nolan Ryan Not only an early card of the 'Ryan Express,' but it also came out the year after the 'Miracle Mets' showed Baltimore who's boss, and it's a frickin' tough high number. A perfect cardboard storm... TRIPS21-1970Ryan712.jpg 1966 Topps #50 Mickey Mantle Getting primed to put the fear of God into right handed hurlers... TRIPS25-1966Mantle50.jpg 1972 Topps #52 Harmon Killebrew In Action An absolutely 'Killer' (get it?) card to find centered... TRIPS24-1972KillebrewIA52.jpg
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow. Last edited by JollyElm; 11-16-2024 at 04:52 PM.
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08-03-2022, 03:02 PM
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Hump day bump day.
Added four additional sets of 'Trips' - Mantle, Bench, Ryan and Coates (for any chilly people out there). Scans are shown in the previous post.
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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08-03-2022, 05:15 PM
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Is the Eddie Mathews/Mickey Mantle mis cut you have up for trade? If so let me know what you put for a dollar value on it.
Finding new trading partners can be hard in general. It is hard to find someone who doesn't want WAY more for their card than it is worth while at the same time offering little to nothing for the others card(s).
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08-09-2022, 03:41 PM
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Bump.
Found three more 'Trips,' including a pair of Mantles and a Killebrew. See post #3 for the scans and send me a PM if interested.
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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08-10-2022, 09:10 AM
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Jolly...PM sent on the 67 Mantle/Matthews miscut card...thanks!
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11-30-2022, 05:13 PM
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After a long while, the hoarding ends not, so I have additional stuff available now. Previous scans have been updated to reflect things now 'gawn.'
1968 Topps #50 Willie Mays Same Willie shot from 1965, but this time bathed in beautiful burlap... TRIPS27-1968Mays50.jpg 1967 Topps #252 Bob Bolin 'White Streak' Variation The folks at Topps acted a little like Tom Sawyer with the whitewashing... TRIPS26-1967Bolinstreak252.jpg 1969 Topps #120 Pete Rose A pricey card of the hit king honing his craft in the cage... TRIPS28-1969Rose120.jpg 1970 Topps #300 Tom Seaver The fourth straight portrait of 'Tom Terrific' by the unimaginative Topps art department... TRIPS29-1970Seaver300.jpg Here's a pic of the gum residue ('stain') on back of the PSA 8 ST... 1970Seaver300stainback.jpg
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow. Last edited by JollyElm; 11-16-2024 at 04:52 PM.
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12-03-2022, 07:43 AM
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PM sent.
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12-27-2022, 02:48 PM
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Scans updated for movement, with some cards being added/deleted based on whether or not I still had a trio of them.
And now coming in from the bullpen... 1973 Topps #174 Rich Gossage When the heater is coming at your head, you better duck...duck...GOOSE!!!!!!... TRIPS30-1973Gossage174.jpg
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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01-30-2023, 04:23 PM
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And now walking the green carpet of AstroTurf in his MVP finery...
1973 Topps #130 Pete Rose A Pete Rose by any other name would still hit as sweet... TRIPS31-1973Rose130.jpg As for perceived 'trade value,' the only similarly graded and centered card on eBay is listed for $750...so do with that what you will. 
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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06-06-2023, 03:08 PM
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We all know this is really only a buying/selling site, but I will continue to put up cards I have triples of for trade in case anyone out there has big cards to swap...
1967 Topps #150 Mickey Mantle It's puzzling, the dislike of this card expressed by some people, as it's quite a joyous and engaging portrait of 'The Mick'... 1967Mantle150PSAall3.jpg 1962 Topps #5 Sandy Koufax The 'Left Arm of God' working up a sweat and ready to take on all batters... 1962koufax5psaall3.jpg 1961 Topps #579 Willie Mays All Star The 'Say Hey Kid' smiles, because he knows his is one of the most sought after high numbers from the great 1961 set... 1961Mays579PSASGCall3.jpg
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow. Last edited by JollyElm; 09-04-2023 at 07:31 PM.
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06-13-2023, 02:32 PM
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A couple of further additions...
1967 Topps #600 Brooks Robinson Trying to get your glove on one of these monstrous Brooksie high numbers is no easy task... TRIPS32-1967Robinson600a.jpg 1969 Topps #260 Reggie Jackson And the crowd chants, "REG-GIE, REG-GIE, ROO-KIE, ROO-KIE"... TRIPS33-1969Jackson260.jpg
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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09-05-2023, 03:09 PM
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Restocked the shelves...
1972 Topps #695 Rod Carew One of, if not THE, most sought after high numbers from this incredible set... TRIPS36-1972carew695.jpg 1969 Topps #468 Pirates Rookies 'White Letter' Variation The wickedly tough WL variations are all worth their weight in (white) gold... TRIPS37-1969PiratesRookiesWL468.jpg
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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10-04-2023, 06:18 PM
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A pair (or is it considered a sextuplet?) of further additions...
1961 Topps #574 Luis Aparicio All Star Doesn't matter if you pronounce it 'Loo-wee-ss,' 'Loo-wee,' or 'Lewis,' this is a tough HOFer high number you want to grab... TRIPS40-1961AparicioAS574.jpg 1972 Topps #696 Rod Carew In Action The much sought after high number counterpart to his 'regular' card... TRIPS38-1972carewIA696.jpg
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow. Last edited by JollyElm; 10-04-2023 at 06:22 PM.
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10-12-2023, 03:06 PM
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And now staring you down from 60 feet 6 inches away (but maybe a tad bit closer, since that measurement is to the rear point of the plate)...
1961 Topps #344 Sandy Koufax It was never a day at the beach when you had to face Sandy (see what I did there?)... TRIPS39-1961Koufax344.jpg
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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10-12-2023, 06:21 PM
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How much for the 1968 Mantle PSA 8 (OC)??
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12-21-2023, 01:40 PM
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Chestnuts roasting on an open BUMP...
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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02-21-2024, 03:34 PM
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Just recently got back into trading again, so let's give this thread a good ole bump-aroo!!
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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03-10-2024, 09:20 PM
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Got a trifecta of this card now...
1963 Topps #200 Mickey Mantle 'The Mick,' a living God in the Yankee Stadium cathedral... 
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow. Last edited by JollyElm; 03-11-2024 at 03:22 PM.
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Since insanity is said to be doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, I gotta think that turbo-insanity must be bumping the same thread over and over again and expecting different results...but here goes anyway!!!
BUMP!!!!
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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06-11-2024, 03:29 PM
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If you have a thirst for trading big, then "This Bump's For You!!!"
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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07-30-2024, 03:32 PM
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A twofer (or is it considered a sixfer?) of further additions...
1966 Topps #126 Jim Pamer Rookie Card If you thought Jim was looking sharp as an underwear model for Jockey, take a look at how sharp the corners are on these beautiful RCs... 196palmer126RCSGCall3a.jpg 1972 Topps #559 Pete Rose Definitely one of the keys to the psychedelic '72 set, one of these 'Charlie Hustles' will help you get a nice fix... 1972rose559PSAall3.jpg
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow. Last edited by JollyElm; 11-16-2024 at 04:34 PM.
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Guess I should plunk this one down here, too...
1965 Topps #160 Roberto Clemente The cardboard equivalent of showing he was heads and shoulders above the rest, plus some nice centering... 
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Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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09-09-2024, 02:43 PM
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While we're on the topic of pointlessly bumping...bump.
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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11-16-2024, 04:50 PM
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Updated to reflect some long term movement and replacement...
So let's TRADE tonight, gonna BUMP it tight, everybody chug a can of SPRITE! and all will be ALRIGH-I-I-I-IGHT!!!! (Rhyming is hard!!!)
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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02-27-2025, 03:01 PM
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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02-28-2025, 12:58 PM
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PM sent!
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After trading a Clemente away, I was able to find a Willie Mays to replace him (wow, that would've been a really interesting real-life swap to debate)...
1962 Topps #300 Willie Mays Like a monstrous homer, Willie's happily sending a smile far away off into the distance... TRIPS42-1962Mays300.jpg (Note: the image is an amalgam of scans/pics.)
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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04-10-2025, 04:32 PM
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Back to the top we go...
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All the cool kids love my YouTube Channel:
Elm's Adventures in Cardboard Land https://www.youtube.com/@TheJollyElm Looking to trade? Here's my bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152396...57685904801706 “I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks during batting practice.” Casey Stengel Spelling "Yastrzemski" correctly without needing to look it up since the 1980s. Overpaying yesterday is simply underpaying tomorrow.
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