Goldin Auctions - WWG set

[Herpolsheimer]

I was the winner of the World Wide Gum Complete set in the recent Goldin Auction (+/- $50 K). I have been working on this set for four years and decided to go all in as the cards are just too scarce to buy individually. I am happy with the purchase even though many of the top cards have been altered according to PSA. What bothers me after the win is that the promotion on the auction was:

https://goldin.co/item/1934-world-wi...babe-ruthkwrmq

"1934 V354 World Wide Gum (Canadian Goudey) Baseball PSA-Graded Complete Set (96) - Featuring Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Jimmy Foxx, Tris Speaker - #1 on the PSA Set Registry"

However, the set appears to be the #4 set on the PSA Registry and at the time of the auction it appears that the top three were already established since 2005 as the three higher ranked sets. The set I purchased is not #1. I have paid but feel ripped off and lied to. Below is the definition of fraud from the Merriam Webster website.

"fraud

Synonyms of fraud

1a : deceit, trickery
specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right
was accused of credit card fraud

b : an act of deceiving or misrepresenting : trick
automobile insurance frauds


The link to the PSA Registry is Below where my set is clearly #4:

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...oudey-v354/561

What should I do to make things right???

[4815162342]

Your set is the current #1. Those other 3 sets have all been retired.

[ullmandds]

im a little confused as to why there are a few 33' looking goudeys included in the 34' canadian set...like ruth?

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Your set is the current #1. Those other 3 sets have all been retired.

I don't know much about the registry. What does it mean for a set to be retired?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Your set is the current #1. Those other 3 sets have all been retired.

I just hit "stop" on the microwave popcorn.

[Snowman]

LOL, you can't be serious? *facepalm*

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I don't know much about the registry. What does it mean for a set to be retired?

It means those cards are no longer in their registry inventory.

Originally Posted by Leon

I just hit "stop" on the microwave popcorn.

[G1911]

They didn’t lie, you weren’t defrauded. This is great lol

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Herpolsheimer

I was the winner of the World Wide Gum Complete set in the recent Goldin Auction (+/- $50 K). I have been working on this set for four years and decided to go all in as the cards are just too scarce to buy individually. I am happy with the purchase even though many of the top cards have been altered according to PSA. What bothers me after the win is that the promotion on the auction was:

https://goldin.co/item/1934-world-wi...babe-ruthkwrmq

"1934 V354 World Wide Gum (Canadian Goudey) Baseball PSA-Graded Complete Set (96) - Featuring Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Jimmy Foxx, Tris Speaker - #1 on the PSA Set Registry"

However, the set appears to be the #4 set on the PSA Registry and at the time of the auction it appears that the top three were already established since 2005 as the three higher ranked sets. The set I purchased is not #1. I have paid but feel ripped off and lied to. Below is the definition of fraud from the Merriam Webster website.

"fraud

Synonyms of fraud

1a : deceit, trickery
specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right
was accused of credit card fraud

b : an act of deceiving or misrepresenting : trick
automobile insurance frauds


The link to the PSA Registry is Below where my set is clearly #4:

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...oudey-v354/561

What should I do to make things right???

First click on the PSA link you provided. Then scroll down the page and you will come to a second section titled Current Finest. After that then you decide on what is best.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

It means those cards are no longer in their registry inventory.

Thanks for answering my question. From the description in the auction listing:

"With its 4.15 GPA, this assembly, as published to account for 96 cards, merits "#1 Current Finest" placement on the PSA Set Registry"

So it looks like the description was accurate.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Thanks for answering my question. From the description in the auction listing:

"With its 4.15 GPA, this assembly, as published to account for 96 cards, merits "#1 Current Finest" placement on the PSA Set Registry"

So it looks like the description was accurate.

Correct.

[LEHR]

Originally Posted by Herpolsheimer

What should I do to make things right???

I'd start with deleting this thread.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Golden but they clearly did nothing wrong here.

Also, you spent $50k on a registry set not knowing how the registry works. To look at it in that light, does it even matter if the set was #1 or #4?

Great set BTW, and congrats on the pickup.

[Exhibitman]

Fraud also requires reasonable reliance. Something you can fact check in a few seconds isn't necessarily reasonable to rely on.

[raulus]

I suspect what others are suggesting, sometimes in their own special way, is that you should be more focused about the individual cards you just acquired, rather than the precise spot on the registry, as the relative spot on the registry shouldn't be a meaningful consideration.

Based on a quick glance at the registry, at the moment, you're the only one with a complete set on the registry. As noted by others here, the other collectors that have previously completed the set have now retired their sets, which usually means that they've sold all or a part of their sets. The next set down below you on the list is a long way down at only 18.75% complete.

One way to read that is it's not a popular set to collect, at least in PSA slabs. Another way to read it is that it's an expensive and/or difficult set to collect in PSA slabs. Either way, you're the proud new owner of the only complete set on the registry.

So congrats on the new set, and hopefully you enjoy having it, regardless of what's shown on the Set Registry.

[SyrNy1960]

Buy the cards, not the registry

[oldjudge]

Why would you be asking questions like this after the auction rather than before you bid?

[NiceDocter]

$50,000 here and $50,000 there and pretty soon you are talking about real money!

[raulus]

Not to be the rules police for the OP, but I just noticed that your handle doesn't appear to include your full name, or something approximating your full name, unless your full name is Herpolsheimer. Leon is pretty consistently a stickler for that rule whenever you're posting around here about a person or a business. So you might want to update your details to provide that information.

[swarmee]

Looking at the auction page, it looks like cmoking had the #1 set in 2005 and 2006. The Memory Lane set (#2 Finest lifetime) then started being that set with a second complete set from 2007-2009. The Memory Lane set was then sold to Donald Spence and it was #1 from 2010-2024, recently retired.

So your set is actually neither of those sets. It's the 3rd best complete set ever listed on the registry, when you consider that you didn't buy either the Cmoking set or the Spence set. If both of those were still active, they'd be #1 and #2 current finest. Those owners could be in the process of selling them either parted out or whole.

But if neither gets relisted before the 2025 registry competition closes, you will get the 2025 badge for having the top set this year.

But as others have said, do your own research before bidding. While technically correct, you did buy the 3rd best set ever listed on the registry.

[Carter08]

Great pickup. Even though it’s an old label and grade, the Ruth 4 looks rock solid.

[jingram058]

Sigh...where do these people get the money? You can't be this freaking dumb and make enough money to drop $50K pocket change on cards. Must have inherited it from daddy and mommy.

[Peter_Spaeth]

"I am happy with the purchase..."
People claiming fraud typically are not, in my experience.

[brianp-beme]

I know if I posted a thread along these lines, I would be feeling a little bit like a Herpolsheimer right now.


Brian (no offense to any Herpolsheimers out there)

[Republicaninmass]

Likely he will be asked for a good contact number from Leon, then a mysterious phone call (moments later) from Ken Goldin.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

"I am happy with the purchase..."
People claiming fraud typically are not, in my experience.

Are they "clown buyers" i hear so much about?

[JollyElm]

$50K in cards.
5¢ in common sense.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Likely he will be asked for a good contact number from Leon, then a mysterious phone call (moments later) from Ken Goldin.

On these kinds of things I'm happy to give it out. Thanks ! 😊
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