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Old 07-12-2018, 01:53 PM
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Default 1913 Cravats - The Full Set

I wanted to publicly thank Taylor (tschock) for being willing to part with his Cravats piece. It was received about a week ago and the set is now complete...at least until any further uncataloged examples surface

This was a project 20+ years in the making and I still cannot believe it is done.
These things are extremely obscure. There aren't more than a handful of each player and several players only have one known example, including the Joe Jackson. If these were cards instead of ugly pennants, a set would almost certainly be impossible. So to all of you collectors of obscure oddball sets...keep at it

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Here is the rest of the set, although they look my prettier on Old Cardboard's site: http://www.oldcardboard.com/o/b/cravats/cravats-gal.asp
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awesome!!! Congrats on finishing the set! Now what?
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Congrats! That's quite a piece you got from Taylor! Think I like the sewn version better than the individual pennants. Very cool. Although I kind of wished you hadn't shown this ... because now I have the thought ... hey, it would be neat to collect those ... maybe I should start the set!

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Very nice, congrats Chris!

BTW, looks like a handful of the pennants share photos used in the sepia-toned M101-2 set.

Chase (1909) -
Konetchy (1910) -
Dooin (1910) -
Coombs (1910) -
Bender (1910) -
Archer (1911) -
Meyers (1911) -
Wagner (1912) -

and Plank (if it were reversed) is close but not quite:
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outstanding! what a great set!
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:44 PM
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Thanks for all the kind comments! The Cravats probably are my all-time favorite set; almost certainly because they are so unusual and obscure. I am also hoping information on their origin will someday surface. All we really know at this point is the year.
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Thanks for all the kind comments! The Cravats probably are my all-time favorite set; almost certainly because they are so unusual and obscure. I am also hoping information on their origin will someday surface. All we really know at this point is the year.
Chris,

Thanks for the nice shout out. And sharing your now 'complete' collection. I was glad to to (finally) part with since I could send them where they truly belonged.

But is the set really complete without the all color variations?
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why I keep logging on to net54.
congratulations to you both!
it's quite heartwarming to read about the passion & the sense of community that we all (hopefully) share in this great hobby.
thank you chris and taylor
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+1 on that sentiment.
Congrats Chris!!

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why I keep logging on to net54.
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it's quite heartwarming to read about the passion & the sense of community that we all (hopefully) share in this great hobby.
thank you chris and taylor
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Default Very tough set

Congrats! Thanks for sharing.
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Wow! What a great accomplishment. And to have been working on it for 20 years! Your perseverance is impressive! Thanks for sharing. This is an issue I was not even aware of.
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Default Cravats 1913

My search for 1913 Cravats on eBay yielded this interesting letterhead from July 18, 1913.

Coincidence?

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Now THAT is something you just don't see every day! Congratulations, sir.
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My search for 1913 Cravats on eBay yielded this interesting letterhead from July 18, 1913.

Coincidence?

Patrick
Patrick, you might be onto something there. Both the felts and that letterhead share a similar logo in the shape of a circle (depicted as a baseball on the felt) with an almost identically angled and similar looking 'CRAVATS' within that circle. I believe you have possibly identified the company behind this set of felts.

Thanks for sharing!

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Bravo! Well done.
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Super cool. You might post a checklist with colors on the off chance that a member would have a variation or possibly a new example.
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Just to point out, the original post was from over 6-1/2 years ago. Hopefully that poster is still around to chime in on his impressive Cravats felt collection.

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Just to point out, the original post was from over 6-1/2 years ago. Hopefully that poster is still around to chime in on his impressive Cravats felt collection. Brian
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I love a long-game completion! Congrats!
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Congrats. I have frequently noticed you mention of them at the bottom of your posta and never had any idea what they were until this thread.

Very cool.

Thanks for posting.
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cravats?
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