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Old 01-14-2025, 08:18 AM
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Default Grover Hartley Collection = "Complete"

I had a pretty big mailday yesterday with the arrival of the 1917 Weil Baking Grover Hartley (one of two known to exist?), as I believe this completes my Grover Hartley collection. I always get asked, "Why Hartley," so I'll answer that before it's asked. My grandpa and great uncle each played minor league baseball for the Findlay Oilers in 1940 and 1938-39 respectively. The manager of the team both years was Grover Hartley.

Collecting Hartley has been a challenge as he's clearly a lesser known player and was short printed, at least in the T207 set. With that being said, I believe I have acquired every obtainable card for Grover Hartley, barring the discovery of a T207 Red Cross or a 1917 Merchant's Bakery (both of which are speculative and not confirmed to my knowledge).

1911 Helmar Stamp
1912 T207 Broadleaf
1912 T207 Anonymous
1912 T207 Cycle
1913 T200 Fatima
1917 Boston Store x2
1917 Collins McCarthy x2
1917 Blank Back
1917 Standard Baking
1917 Weil Baking

Next steps are designing and building a display case for the cards, a 1930s Grover Hartley bat, and at the center of it all, the last ball my grandpa pitched in the minor leagues.




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Old 01-14-2025, 08:31 AM
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Outstanding!

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Old 01-14-2025, 09:04 AM
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Love it. Be sure to share a pic of the case when you finish it.
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Old 01-14-2025, 03:47 PM
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Great Job, Kyle!

Did you pick up the recent Anon 25 T207 which was auctioned recently (can't remember where). It was better than this one, though not by much, if I recall...



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Old 01-14-2025, 04:08 PM
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That's a fantastic collection!
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Congrats on the run Kyle, player runs can be some of the toughest to complete, especially obscure players with rare cards. I'm one away from completing my player run and fingers crossed that final card pops up somewhere.
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Old 01-14-2025, 05:39 PM
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Congrats on the finish and beautiful collection! Crossing off that last one and completing the run had to feel sensational. How long did it take to get all of them?
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Old 01-14-2025, 07:42 PM
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Great Job, Kyle!

Did you pick up the recent Anon 25 T207 which was auctioned recently (can't remember where). It was better than this one, though not by much, if I recall...



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I did not. Do you have a link?

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Congrats on the finish and beautiful collection! Crossing off that last one and completing the run had to feel sensational. How long did it take to get all of them?
I started this in 2017 or so IIRC. Not as long as some collections, but certainly a decent chunk of life.
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That is so cool.

Don't ever tell me this hobby doesn't have something to offer everyone.
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Old 01-14-2025, 09:15 PM
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Congrats, Kyle - quite an accomplishment!

Question - Does the T207 Anonymous card of Hartley come with both backs, Factory 3 and Factory 25? A T207 set collector, which I am not, would likely know the answer right off the top.
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I think one of those bad (literal interpretation) boys used to be mine. Congrats on persevering like a good collector does!

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congrats kyle...that's quite a feat!!!
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Old 01-15-2025, 08:38 AM
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Congrats, Kyle - quite an accomplishment!

Question - Does the T207 Anonymous card of Hartley come with both backs, Factory 3 and Factory 25? A T207 set collector, which I am not, would likely know the answer right off the top.
Yes, Val, he does.



That said, Kyle - your accomplishment is awesome. I tried briefly to do some of the other cards for T207 players and realized just how difficult it was. Many congrats on finishing the Hartley backrun.

and no, I don't have the link. I can only remember its been since September, and was one of the larger auction houses. Possibly the REA auction where a bunch of Anon 25's were offered - the one that also had the Ellis Anon Fac 3.

Scratch that - Ellis was in the November REA Encore, but Hartley was not... don't know now which one I saw him in... I'll poke around and see if I can find it. If I recall he was in an SGC 1 slab.

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Mike, thanks for answering my question, which I thought might be of interest to Kyle. The reason I thought Hartley likely had both Anonymous backs (Factories 3 and 25) is that the only T207 cards from the Broadleaf-Cycle Group I have are those of George Mogridge, who was a key pitcher on the 1924 Senators WS Championship Team, and I have both of his Anonymous backs.
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Thanks, Val.

General rule of thumb is that all 50* Broadleaf/Cycle cards can be found with Broadleaf, Cycle, and both Anon factories 3 and 25.

I believe Kyle and I chatted about that when discussing the T207 Hartley backs at some point in the past, but my memory could be foggy.

* - Only the 51st card (the Lewis no-emblem) is unconfirmed with Cycle and Anon Fac 25, to the best of my knowledge.
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