Trivia: 200 Hits and 100 Walks in Same Season

[cgjackson222]

In 2024, 2 players (Bobby Witt and Luiz Arraez) had at least 200 hits, and 3 Players (Judge, Soto, and Schwarber) had at least 100 walks. But no one had 200 hits AND 100 walks. In fact, no one has done this since Todd Helton achieved the feat in 2003.

Now that Helton is in the HOF, there only 3 players that have had at least 200 hits and 100 walks in the same season that are not in the HOF. Who are they?

By the way, 8 other players besides Helton have done the feat--Cobb, Ruth Gehrig (a record 7x), Hack Wilson, Foxx, Greenberg, Musial and Boggs.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

In 2024, 2 players (Bobby Witt and Luiz Arraez) had at least 200 hits, and 3 Players (Judge, Soto, and Schwarber) had at least 100 walks. But no one had 200 hits AND 100 walks. In fact, no one has done this since Todd Helton achieved the feat in 2003.

Now that Helton is in the HOF, there only 3 players that have had at least 200 hits and 100 walks in the same season that are not in the HOF. Who are they?

By the way, 8 other players besides Helton have done the feat--Cobb, Ruth Gehrig (a record 7x), Hack Wilson, Foxx, Greenberg, Musial and Boggs.

I'm near positive Jon Olerud is one of them. He had a few great seasons at the dish and a great batting eye.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Dykstra?

[packs]

I know at least one of them for sure: my man Bernie Williams.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Maybe Pujols early on? Miggy?

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Seven

I'm near positive Jon Olerud is one of them. He had a few great seasons at the dish and a great batting eye.

Yes! Olerud had 200 hits and 114 walks to go along with his 109 Runs and 107 RBIs in 1993 with Toronto. His OBP was .473!

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Dykstra?

A fine guess. Dykstra had 194 hits and 129 walks in 1993, so he was very close.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe Pujols early on? Miggy?

Great guesses as well. Both Pujols and Miggy have had seasons where they had 200 hits OR 100 walks, but never in the same season. Cabrera was 3 hits shy of 200 in 2011, when he had 108 walks.

Originally Posted by packs

I know at least one of them for sure: my man Bernie Williams.

Yes! Bernie Williams had 202 hits and 100 walks in 1999.

The last guy is more obscure, and player earlier than Olerud or Bernie.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Yes! Olerud had 200 hits and 114 walks to go along with his 109 Runs and 107 RBIs in 1993 with Toronto. His OBP was .473!


A fine guess. Dykstra had 194 hits and 129 walks in 1993, so he was very close.


Great guesses as well. Both Pujols and Miggy have had seasons where they had 200 hits OR 100 walks, but never in the same season. Cabrera was 3 hits shy of 200 in 2011, when he had 108 walks.



Yes! Bernie Williams had 202 hits and 100 walks in 1999.

The last guy is more obscure, and player earlier than Olerud or Bernie.

Wouldn't surprise me if it was someone someone from all the way back in either the 1930s or dead ball era. Lefty O'Doul perhaps? I know he had a few seasons with over 200 hits.

[jimmer77]

Wally Joyner?...

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Seven

Wouldn't surprise me if it was someone someone from all the way back in either the 1930s or dead ball era. Lefty O'Doul perhaps? I know he had a few seasons with over 200 hits.

O'Doul had 200 hits 3x, but was not a big BBs guy.

Originally Posted by jimmer77

Wally Joyner?...

Wally Joyner topped out at 176 hits and 69 walks.

Clue: The last player played for a team that scored 998 runs on the season, the franchise record for the team, and the 8th most by any team since the start of the 20th century. Amazingly, he was not the only player on his team to achieve the feat that season.

[Beercan collector]

Tony Lazzeri
Earl Combs

[jimmer77]

Mike Cameron

[jimmer77]

My last guess was awful....not sure how I thought of Mike Cameron

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Clue: The last player played for a team that scored 998 runs on the season, the franchise record for the team, and the 8th most by any team since the start of the 20th century. Amazingly, he was not the only player on his team to achieve the feat that season.

From that clue I'll bet it's a 1930 Cubs teammate of Hack Wilson but it can't be Cuyler, Hornsby, or Hartnett. Riggs Stephenson?

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Beercan collector

Tony Lazzeri
Earl Combs

Great guesses, but Combs never got to 100 walks, and Lazzeri never got to either.

Originally Posted by jimmer77

Mike Cameron

Mike Cameron never got to 200 hits or 100 walks. But I do like Cameron. Underrated player.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

From that clue I'll bet it's a 1930 Cubs teammate of Hack Wilson but it can't be Cuyler. Hornsby, or Hartnett. Riggs Stephenson?

You are on the right track! But it isn't Cuyler, Hornsby, Hartnett or Stephenson.

[Seven]

I caved and looked up the answer. All I'm going to say is that it certainly was a statistical outlier of a season

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Seven

I caved and looked up the answer. All I'm going to say is that it certainly was a statistical outlier of a season

Yeah, definitely the player in question's best season, although he had another good year the following year, and was an All Star in '33.

So we have narrowed it down to someone on the 1930's Cubs.
Another clue: the player's last name might be something that you study in school or Major in in college.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Yeah, definitely the player in question's best season, although he had another good year the following year, and was an All Star in '33.

So we have narrowed it down to someone on the 1930's Cubs.
Another clue: the player's last name might be something that you study in school or Major in in college.

Man, the more I think I know about baseball, the less it seems I actually know. I actually guessed the guys last name...and I STILL had to look up his first name.

[etsmith]

I'm really surprised that many people have done it, walking takes away at bats so it's certainly an accomplishment.

[cgjackson222]

Woody English had 214 hits and 100 walks for the 1930 Cubs, who set a franchise record with 998 Runs that still stands today.

English was the leadoff or number-two batter for some of the highest-scoring teams in baseball history, and scored 400 runs from 1929 through 1931 while playing shortstop or third base for the Cubs. Woody scored 152 runs in 1930, and many of those were RBI's delivered by Hack Wilson during his record setting 191-RBI season. That year, English had 755 plate appearances — a single-season major-league record until 1938, a National League record until 1962, and still a Cubs record.

English finished 11th in MVP for the 1930 season.

Teammates Hack Wilson (208 hits, 105 walks, 56 HRs, 191 RBIs) won MVP, Kiki Cuyler finished 8th, Gabby Hartnett finished 14th, and pitcher Pat Malone finished 20th.

English would finish 4th in MVP in 1931 despite hitting only 2 HRs. That season, English had 202 hits, but his walk total dropped to 68.

English got his only All Star nod in 1933, but ended up with less 400 at bats and just a .261 Batting Average on the season.

Per SABR, English was "not a large man, English had large hands. Their size was an asset to an infielder but a source of embarrassment as a child (he would hide them in class by sitting on them). English was also known for getting along with the notoriously prickly Rogers Hornsby, with whom he roomed during the second baseman’s stint with the Cubs. Said Bill James, “If you can get along with Rogers Hornsby you can probably get along with anybody, and that was English. He was a likeable, upbeat person who always had something good to say about everybody.”

But he also had an impish side: English “was like ‘Peck’s bad boy’ in the grade-school books of the day. He looked innocent but wasn’t. English’s favorite prank was to crawl across the floor of a hotel lobby and sneak up on an unsuspecting businessman reading the newspaper. English would light the bottom of the paper and slip away as the newspaper caught fire.""

He retired at age 32 in 1938, after having played his second season with Brooklyn. The epitaph on his tombstone in Fredonia Cemetery in Ohio simply reads “A Great Baseball Player.”