period autograph GPC

[theshleps]

I have a trimmed signed Jesse Owens GPC. It was from 1935 the year he won his first NCAA events, olypmics being 1936. Does the fact it was signed in 1935 as opposed to a post retirement autograph add much to the value?

[NiceDocter]

I would say "yes" but all depends on eye appeal and content. Can you post front and back pictures here for a better answer? Sounds like a neat item....

[theshleps]

I would say "yes" but all depends on eye appeal and content. Can you post front and back pictures here for a better answer? Sounds like a neat item....[/QUOTE]
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[NiceDocter]

Well it’s a beautiful signature but I’m not seeing anything that puts a date of any sort on it. It may be 1935 as you say but how would one verify that? Even the stamp and the cancellation date are missing. Still a very attractive signature. Based on your original question, I don’t think there is much if any increased value here unless there something else to add to what you have shown. Mr Jesse Owens is an American Hero and has my undying respect.

[jimq16415]

Can we see the other side? He had a beautiful signature!

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Michael,

Pros:

Vintage
Fountain pen
VERY early
Stamped/postmarked
Not personalized (almost guaranteed in later life examples)

Cons:

Trimmed
Trimmed very poorly and in an aesthetically unpleasing shape and size (for some peoples' tastes)
Trimming touches the salutation
Trimming would make matting this piece an absolute nightmare

It's really difficult to gauge if the bad will outweigh the good (or vice versa) insofar as commanding any sort of premium. I haven't paid any recent attention to the Owens 3X5/GPC market because there was never really a huge collector base in the past; at least not one that drove prices up. For the longest time, you could always find 3X5s signed later in life at reasonable prices, and those prices didn't seem to change much over a two-three decade stretch. Maybe with how the world now embraces all African American pioneers, the values have risen a little and I haven't bothered to pay attention.

If this was a DiMaggio piece, for example, it would command a very strong premium all day long as compared to a modern 3X5, even in spite of condition issues. I'm just not sure how this translates to Owens due to both Owens himself and the item's condition. If there was a premium, I definitely wouldn't bet money that it would be as comparatively exponential as a DiMaggio signed as a San Francisco Seal.

I'd defintiely try to research what Owens was up to around the time of that postmark! There's always a chance that could help increase price.

[theshleps]

Originally Posted by nicedocter

well it’s a beautiful signature but i’m not seeing anything that puts a date of any sort on it. It may be 1935 as you say but how would one verify that? Even the stamp and the cancellation date are missing. Still a very attractive signature. Based on your original question, i don’t think there is much if any increased value here unless there something else to add to what you have shown. Mr jesse owens is an american hero and has my undying respect.

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[theshleps]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Michael,

Pros:

Vintage
Fountain pen
VERY early
Stamped/postmarked
Not personalized (almost guaranteed in later life examples)

Cons:

Trimmed
Trimmed very poorly and in an aesthetically unpleasing shape and size (for some peoples' tastes)
Trimming touches the salutation
Trimming would make matting this piece an absolute nightmare

It's really difficult to gauge if the bad will outweigh the good (or vice versa) insofar as commanding any sort of premium. I haven't paid any recent attention to the Owens 3X5/GPC market because there was never really a huge collector base in the past; at least not one that drove prices up. For the longest time, you could always find 3X5s signed later in life at reasonable prices, and those prices didn't seem to change much over a two-three decade stretch. Maybe with how the world now embraces all African American pioneers, the values have risen a little and I haven't bothered to pay attention.

If this was a DiMaggio piece, for example, it would command a very strong premium all day long as compared to a modern 3X5, even in spite of condition issues. I'm just not sure how this translates to Owens due to both Owens himself and the item's condition. If there was a premium, I definitely wouldn't bet money that it would be as comparatively exponential as a DiMaggio signed as a San Francisco Seal.

I'd defintiely try to research what Owens was up to around the time of that postmark! There's always a chance that could help increase price.

Thanks Billy. It was signed 3 days after

May 25, 1935, is remembered as the day when Jesse Owens established four world records in athletics.[15] On that day, Owens achieved track and field immortality in a span of 45 minutes during the Big Ten meet at Ferry Field in Ann Arbor, Michigan, where he set three world records and tied a fourth. He equaled the world record for the 100-yard dash (9.4 seconds) (not to be confused with the 100-meter dash), and set world records in the long jump (26 feet 8+1⁄4 inches or 8.13 metres, a world record that would last for 25 years); 220 yards (201.2 m) sprint (20.3 seconds); and 220-yard low hurdles (22.6 seconds, becoming the first to break

[Duluth Eskimo]

That signature is sweet and I would say it's worth much more than a typical post Olympic or later life signature. Just MHO